>That being said, probably not a good idea to become responsible for other people before you've got your own life figured out. Ignoring that most people live s

>That being said, probably not a good idea to become responsible for other people before you've got your own life figured out. Ignoring that most people live surprising and unplanned lives, even if you get your shit together, life is still full of surprises. You can lose your job, get very ill, etc even after you're good and settled in life. Worse, we've convinced people to have kids in their late 30s and early 40s because between the levels of education you need to be competitive and the many years of working shit jobs before you get a 'real' job or at least one with a comfortable income, you'll find yourself old. Humans probably weren't designed to have kids so late in life. We're seeing a huge uptick of autism spectrum disorders and taking care of a baby at 41 is a lot tougher than a 21 year old who can weather the storms of low sleep and other issues. The question in my mind is why has society lost its basic compassion towards having children? Reddit's most popular subs include /r/childfree and parents need to fight for basic maternity/paternity rights. In the past, the family unit was considered our more precious thing and society was built to protect it. Now soceity is built to protect markets and economies while families are just a 'fuck you if you want kids' kinda of deal. As an older dad I think the system is ridiculous. Live to work vs work to live is a big theme in my life and the pendulum has unfortunately swung to the former long ago. Its especially obvious once you have kids.