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If there's a need for approval from the boss' boss, why not also an approval from the employee's peers (and employees)? Doesn't it make sense that disgruntled
by RodericDay 10y ago
If there's a need for approval from the boss' boss, why not also an approval from the employee's peers (and employees)?
Doesn't it make sense that disgruntled employees should be able to bar a manager giving themselves raises, purely as a matter of symmetry?
- sokoloff 10y agoThat gives managers an additional incentive to fire those disgruntled employees, and contributes to a mono-culture of thought, which can be worse off for everyone.
- sytse 10y agoThe boss' boss approval is there to prevent people playing favorites. Asking the whole team for approval doesn't make sense to me, it is the task of the boss to be aware what everyone is contributing. The rest of the team should primarily be concerned with their own contributions, not those of others. Nobody can give themselves a raise. This is always proposed by a boss and checked by the boss's boss. If I want to set a salary for one of my reports I have to consult with the board. The board also determines my compensation.
- PeterisP 10y agoA manager may easily be given a goal which will result in profit for the company but in worse conditions/more work/downsizing/whatever for that team; and delaying or avoiding that goal would likely be easier for the team but worse for the rest of the company. It would be appropriate to have the manager's pay depend on how they're executing according to the goals of the company and not the goals of the employees - thus, the boss' boss should get a say in that and the employees should not get a vote as their interests may easily be completely opposite e.g. in achieving cost savings for labor-dominated tasks.