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" but even before it made it to being a law it got all messed up" Requiring legislators to read legislation (and maybe even take a test on bills that are large

" but even before it made it to being a law it got all messed up" Requiring legislators to read legislation (and maybe even take a test on bills that are larger than 10 pages?) before they vote on it might help. Being told "we have to pass it before we can look inside of it" is... I can't think of anything less sane. Re: Canada and other countries. I know in the UK you can get private insurance and "go private" for most services, or you can take the public option, which may involve waiting. Why we think here it's going to be 100% one thing... I don't understand. Your canada story already demosntrates that - someone with more money paid for faster service. I have a strong suspicion he could have had that done privately someone in canada for $x, but seattle was closer/easier (?)

0xcde4c3db 10y ago
Technically, a senator can require that a bill be read aloud by the clerk. However from what I understand that pretty much never actually happens because even if a senator makes the relevant objection, the schedule can just be reworked so that the bill is no longer considered at that time.
maxerickson 10y ago
I don't know the details, but there are restrictions on the services that private clinics can offer in Canada.
- mgkimsal 10y ago
  Interesting - perhaps UK is a bit less restrictive? Or perhaps things have changed there some (my wife left a long time ago).
kefka 10y ago
> Being told "we have to pass it before we can look inside of it" is... I can't think of anything less sane. There's the republican influence for you. That quote Pelosi said was about the disparate bills in House and Senate. In order to see the final bill, each side had to pass it so a merge committee would be made to combine the bill. Then the merge-bill would be re-forwarded back to Senate/House for a final vote. Or what she should have said: "We have to pass the House Bill before we can see the Merged bill." But a 10 second republican talking point snippet makes her look bad. But if you know how Congress works, it makes a heck of a lot of sense.

0xcde4c3db 10y ago

Technically, a senator can require that a bill be read aloud by the clerk. However from what I understand that pretty much never actually happens because even if a senator makes the relevant objection, the schedule can just be reworked so that the bill is no longer considered at that time.

maxerickson 10y ago

I don't know the details, but there are restrictions on the services that private clinics can offer in Canada.

mgkimsal 10y ago
Interesting - perhaps UK is a bit less restrictive? Or perhaps things have changed there some (my wife left a long time ago).

kefka 10y ago

> Being told "we have to pass it before we can look inside of it" is... I can't think of anything less sane. There's the republican influence for you. That quote Pelosi said was about the disparate bills in House and Senate. In order to see the final bill, each side had to pass it so a merge committee would be made to combine the bill. Then the merge-bill would be re-forwarded back to Senate/House for a final vote. Or what she should have said: "We have to pass the House Bill before we can see the Merged bill." But a 10 second republican talking point snippet makes her look bad. But if you know how Congress works, it makes a heck of a lot of sense.