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Rockstars? What you really need is a ninja. <joking> This came up a litte while ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1248389 http://news.ycombinator.com/it

by nathanh 16y ago

Rockstars? What you really need is a ninja. <joking> This came up a litte while ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1248389 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1248389 Seems like to most people it means that whoever wrote the job post has unreasonable expectations. Also, rockstars make a lot of money. If a company really is looking for a rockstar, they better be able to pay for it.

adrianwaj 16y ago
If Bono came to me looking for work, I'd find something for him to do. Same with Anthony Kiedes. Great PR.
- trafficlight 16y ago
  I wouldn't hire Bono. He wouldn't get anything done. He would just write songs about your problem, rather than actually doing something about it.
  - LiveTheDream 16y ago
    If your problem was obscurity, Bono just writing songs about it would actually be a solution.
  - adrianwaj 16y ago
    Let me elaborate: This whole anti-rockstar programmer movement sees the glass half empty rather than the glass half full. Rockstar programming should be encouraged, not shunned. It would be wonderful to have a Lenny Kravitz or Mick Jagger despite being washed up and well passed their musical prime able to crank out good Python code. So why the development community energizing this ongoing global campaign against the "rockstar programmer" and thus discouraging any attempt by these rockstars to reinvent themselves and to find success in a respectable and head-down career change? I myself am all for it. In terms of employment, they'll be good for your firm and its morale: - entertaining lunch break stories, and "musical recesses" - Because they're usually older and not money driven but rather skills driven, easier to manage and remunerate. - You'll be seen as an equal opportunity employer and not age-biased. - Most importantly, the PR value of having your startup or firm name-dropped globally alongside your rockstar will be priceless, more than making up for novice skill sets. - Lastly, it's altruistic: getting rockstars off the stage and into the coding booth will be good for music: no more comeback hits. And we won't have these dinosaurs taking attention away from what would otherwise be standout emerging artists. Rockstar programmers, bring 'em on I say. Let's support the likes of Kylie Minogue and Steven Tyler in their learning to become Pythonistas or Rubyists, or whatever language they choose, whether that learning be done on the tour bus or tour jet. So on behalf of the development community everywhere, we're right behind you, and we'll help. They'll mitigate further hearing loss too.
    - j_baker 16y ago
      Two things: 1. Occam's razor would suggest that rather than hiring a "rockstar of programming" you should hire a "programming star". It's much simpler. 2. A real programming superstar usually has much, much higher hopes than to become become the ultimate Pythonista or Rubyist. Good programmers transcend languages and technologies.
  - jsharpe 16y ago
    By that argument, no company should have any need for PR. All they do is talk about your problems.

by nathanh 16y ago

adrianwaj 16y ago

If Bono came to me looking for work, I'd find something for him to do. Same with Anthony Kiedes. Great PR.

trafficlight 16y ago
I wouldn't hire Bono. He wouldn't get anything done. He would just write songs about your problem, rather than actually doing something about it.
- LiveTheDream 16y ago
  If your problem was obscurity, Bono just writing songs about it would actually be a solution.
- adrianwaj 16y ago
  Let me elaborate: This whole anti-rockstar programmer movement sees the glass half empty rather than the glass half full. Rockstar programming should be encouraged, not shunned. It would be wonderful to have a Lenny Kravitz or Mick Jagger despite being washed up and well passed their musical prime able to crank out good Python code. So why the development community energizing this ongoing global campaign against the "rockstar programmer" and thus discouraging any attempt by these rockstars to reinvent themselves and to find success in a respectable and head-down career change? I myself am all for it. In terms of employment, they'll be good for your firm and its morale: - entertaining lunch break stories, and "musical recesses" - Because they're usually older and not money driven but rather skills driven, easier to manage and remunerate. - You'll be seen as an equal opportunity employer and not age-biased. - Most importantly, the PR value of having your startup or firm name-dropped globally alongside your rockstar will be priceless, more than making up for novice skill sets. - Lastly, it's altruistic: getting rockstars off the stage and into the coding booth will be good for music: no more comeback hits. And we won't have these dinosaurs taking attention away from what would otherwise be standout emerging artists. Rockstar programmers, bring 'em on I say. Let's support the likes of Kylie Minogue and Steven Tyler in their learning to become Pythonistas or Rubyists, or whatever language they choose, whether that learning be done on the tour bus or tour jet. So on behalf of the development community everywhere, we're right behind you, and we'll help. They'll mitigate further hearing loss too.
  - j_baker 16y ago
    Two things: 1. Occam's razor would suggest that rather than hiring a "rockstar of programming" you should hire a "programming star". It's much simpler. 2. A real programming superstar usually has much, much higher hopes than to become become the ultimate Pythonista or Rubyist. Good programmers transcend languages and technologies.
- jsharpe 16y ago
  By that argument, no company should have any need for PR. All they do is talk about your problems.