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FB really made it when the captured the old people. The issue is the the 12-20 years are quite mercurial. 15 years ago it was AIM,MSN, Yahoo chat, then myspace

FB really made it when the captured the old people. The issue is the the 12-20 years are quite mercurial. 15 years ago it was AIM,MSN, Yahoo chat, then myspace, then facebook. Now its snap chat and instagram. Its hard to keep the market since when you get friend request from Mom or Dad do you really want to be in that social network anymore?

delecti 10y ago
I don't think 12-20 year olds are that mercurial, it's just a small age range, so in 8 years it will be an entirely new group of people. Fifteen years is nearly two full lengths of that duration, so it's no wonder that AIM/MSN/Yahoo aren't in use by the current 12-20 year olds. It's only very recently that I (a 29 year old) finally phased out AIM in favor of other channels. Once you capture a social group, it's fairly stable, there's just a constant stream of new social groups as each year's new 12-20 year olds start going online.
- argonaut 10y ago
  That's the very definition of mercurial. In 8 years it'll be a new cohort with new tastes.
  - delecti 10y ago
    The 12-20 demographic is mercurial, but 12-20 year olds are not. Though really my point was this: it isn't the case that you need to continually re-grab the same users, it is the case that there are continually new users to grab.
    - argonaut 10y ago
      If the old users leave, then yes, there are continually new users to regrab.
mrep 10y ago
> The issue is the the 12-20 years are quite mercurial. I don't think we are mercurial but that we have less experience and therefore are much more willing to try new things. Snapchat is way better as an outlet to post more regular things you are doing to your friends because it is ephemeral. Why? Because we all look back and see all the stupid stuff we posted when we were younger. The only reason I haven't deleted my facebook to delete all of that old stuff is because Facebook's other offerings are pretty good. While I hardly know anyone that posts regularly to facebook anymore, almost everyone uses facebook messenger and groups to communicate in isolated groups. Snapchat has been blowing up because it fills that niche of "I want to post more updates about my life without really having to worry about how those updates will be interpreted in the future".
- samfisher83 10y ago
  I hope you don't believe that. You never know when someone saved something.
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  - mrep 10y ago
    Have you never made a joke before that some random person might not like and get offended by it and try and attack you for it? Have you never said something that you have looked back upon and regretted saying it (whether you were just young and immature or just not thinking clearly)? Do you also not do those things over common communication channels outside of talking face to face? I'm genuinely curious because I literally don't know anyone under 30 that has never done anything that they did not want recorded in history forever. It's not that I have posted anything on facebook/instagram/snapchat... that is really that bad/embarrassing. If it were all posted on the front page of the NYT I would probably go through life just as normally (albeit, quite a bit embarrassed by it). I would just prefer to minimize that risk. That's where snapchat fills the niche. It allows me to speak more freely with others with less fear that everything I say and do will be pulled up years later completely out of context.

delecti 10y ago

I don't think 12-20 year olds are that mercurial, it's just a small age range, so in 8 years it will be an entirely new group of people. Fifteen years is nearly two full lengths of that duration, so it's no wonder that AIM/MSN/Yahoo aren't in use by the current 12-20 year olds. It's only very recently that I (a 29 year old) finally phased out AIM in favor of other channels. Once you capture a social group, it's fairly stable, there's just a constant stream of new social groups as each year's new 12-20 year olds start going online.

argonaut 10y ago
That's the very definition of mercurial. In 8 years it'll be a new cohort with new tastes.
- delecti 10y ago
  The 12-20 demographic is mercurial, but 12-20 year olds are not. Though really my point was this: it isn't the case that you need to continually re-grab the same users, it is the case that there are continually new users to grab.
  - argonaut 10y ago
    If the old users leave, then yes, there are continually new users to regrab.

mrep 10y ago

> The issue is the the 12-20 years are quite mercurial. I don't think we are mercurial but that we have less experience and therefore are much more willing to try new things. Snapchat is way better as an outlet to post more regular things you are doing to your friends because it is ephemeral. Why? Because we all look back and see all the stupid stuff we posted when we were younger. The only reason I haven't deleted my facebook to delete all of that old stuff is because Facebook's other offerings are pretty good. While I hardly know anyone that posts regularly to facebook anymore, almost everyone uses facebook messenger and groups to communicate in isolated groups. Snapchat has been blowing up because it fills that niche of "I want to post more updates about my life without really having to worry about how those updates will be interpreted in the future".

samfisher83 10y ago
I hope you don't believe that. You never know when someone saved something.
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- mrep 10y ago
  Have you never made a joke before that some random person might not like and get offended by it and try and attack you for it? Have you never said something that you have looked back upon and regretted saying it (whether you were just young and immature or just not thinking clearly)? Do you also not do those things over common communication channels outside of talking face to face? I'm genuinely curious because I literally don't know anyone under 30 that has never done anything that they did not want recorded in history forever. It's not that I have posted anything on facebook/instagram/snapchat... that is really that bad/embarrassing. If it were all posted on the front page of the NYT I would probably go through life just as normally (albeit, quite a bit embarrassed by it). I would just prefer to minimize that risk. That's where snapchat fills the niche. It allows me to speak more freely with others with less fear that everything I say and do will be pulled up years later completely out of context.