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Apple Delays AirPods Wireless Headphones
- rememberlenny 10y agoCan someone explain what this means for their share price?
- pschneidr 10y agoSure: Mainly it means that Apple is struggling with their supply chain, which for a hardware manufacturer isn't great. But since this is a brand new product it doesn't impact current revenues, but it does impact outlook.
- untog 10y ago> Sure: Mainly it means that Apple is struggling with their supply chain They haven't clarified if it's a software or hardware issue yet, so we can't say that for sure.
- pschneidr 10y agoOn a higher level, software is part of the supply chain. The only difference is that the vendor is a internal business unit.
- Teever 10y agoWell then I guess hamburger is vegan because it's made of cows which are made of grass.
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- theoh 10y agoNo, consciousness is crucial. It's like, as the German media theorist Kittler says, "there is no software". From a certain perspective. A perspective that ignores conscious experience. (I realize that you were joking)
- manarth 10y agoI think there are two key things here: 1. It's a new product, so sales/revenue/profit figures should effectively be relatively unchanged. 2. It's a new product that they announced with a bit of a fanfare, and has attracted a fair amount of attention, so there's some reputational damage from not delivering on the expectations they set. The damage may be nothing more than a short-term dip of share-price if they soon deliver on their promise, but the damage may be a little bit deeper and more extended if they don't deliver soon. It's still a niche product though, so I wouldn't expect any significant shift in share price. For the issue around AirPods alone, I would expect a dip: perhaps an extremely slight short-term dip, but potentially a longer-term dip if it went uncorrected. That said, Apple have another announcement scheduled tomorrow, so the impact of AirPods on the share-price could quickly be completely immaterial.
- mjsweet 10y agoWould this be a manufacturing or software issue?
- Retr0spectrum 10y agoIt doesn't sound like they're giving any clues.
- potatolicious 10y agoThe Beats sport earbuds that use the same chipset went on sale today - so presumably it's a hardware issue.
- djrogers 10y agoThe PowerBeats have the same W1 chip, but they don't have the same motion sensors, beam forming mice, IR sensors, and other hardware and software that goes in to making the EarPods. There's a lot of software involved in tweaking all of that stuff that goes way beyond the W1 chip.
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- UVB-76 10y agoHopefully the delay is a chance for the product designers to go back to the drawing board. I simply cannot fathom why anyone would want to own a pair.
- tarikjn 10y agoWould you mind elaborating the flaws you see in them? Curious to see other point of views. Personally, I am more of an in-ear earphones user, so I am more drawn to e.g. Bragi earphones, but even then I am missing the option of custom in-ear moulds, so I am sticking with shure audio drivers + Westone bluetooth cable. I do welcome Apple entrance because I could see how they might be able to push development of the sector and some advances.
- UVB-76 10y agoI also prefer in-ear headphones when out and about, so would compare the AirPods to something like the Klipsch S4i [1] Compared to the Klipsch earphones, the AirPods: 1) Are more than twice as expensive ($159 vs. $69) 2) Have significantly worse sound quality 3) Look ugly as sin; wired earphones like the Klipsch ones look just fine, and come in colors other than white 4) Require regular charging (only 5 hours of listening time); wired earphones require no charging at all 5) Are considerably easier to lose or misplace (either one or both) 6) Will have a finite life, as the battery wears out; standard wired earphones will last forever if you look after them 7) Are only compatible with current generation Apple devices; standard wired earphones have universal compatibility 8) Will likely be depreciated within a couple of generations of Apple products; wired earphones will endure [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00264GYMG/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00264GYMG/
- djrogers 10y agoWhile the klipsch headphones have wires, and don't have beam-forming noise cancelling mics. Different strokes....
- 10a352766262 10y agoCompared to landline telephones, cell phones: 1) Are more than twice as expensive 2) Have significantly worse sound quality 3) Look ugly as sin; wired telephones look just fine 4) Require regular charging; wired telephones require no charging at all 5) Are considerably easier to lose or misplace 6) Will have a finite life, as the battery wears out; standard wired telephones will last forever if you look after them 7) Are only compatible with current generation cellular networks; standard wired telephones have universal compatibility 8) Will likely be depreciated within a couple of generations; wired telephones will endure
- jonny_eh 10y agoWhat are the odds they just cancel the product? I haven't seen much excitement for them (since they're pricey and can be so easily lost), and if they're having trouble making them, I could see them just cancelling them and going back to the drawing board.
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- selectodude 10y agohttp://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMTN2AM/A/earpods-with-lightning-connector http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMTN2AM/A/earpods-with-lig...
- intopieces 10y agoAll iPhone 7 units ship with earphones and an adapter.
- macintux 10y agoOn the contrary, at least on the Twitter echo chamber I watch, these are much-anticipated. I'd wager they'll be in short supply for a while.
- wlll 10y agoI personally like the idea, if not the implementation. I'd buy a pair tomorrow if they were made by someone like Etymotic, but I've always found the comfort level of Apple earphones to be something akin to trying to wedge a spoon in my ear, with related levels of acoustic isolation.
- kondro 10y agoI'm looking forward to them. They're on-par price-wise with similar products and I don't think they'll be that easily lost as I'm likely to keep the case with me.
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- philfrasty 10y agoI have tested at least a dozen Bluetooth-headphones for sports (running, gym, etc.) and they all died due to sweat after max. 2 months. Anyone has a good suggestion? (was really looking forward to buying the AirPods even though not sure about sweat-resistance...)
- potatolicious 10y agoI have the Jaybird Freedom, they're still alive, but I can't recommend them - the pogo-pin charging mechanism is fragile. At this point it takes me a good dozen tries of plugging it in for it to actually charge. I really, really want wireless earbuds to be a thing, but every choice I've tried is just so damn crappy. I really do hope that Apple can pull this off, because the field of wireless earbuds is begging for some disruption.
- g12mcgov 10y agoAgreed, I've burned through 4 pairs of Jaybird X2's (easily the worst headphones I have ever used) from what I believe to be damage caused by sweat (despite being "sweat proof"). Fortunately, their CS has replaced them each time, but frustrating never the less. I too was hoping the Airpods would be a solution.
- BryantD 10y agoI have a set of Jaybird X2s that have lasted a while, purchased on recommendation from http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-wireless-exercise-headphones/ http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-wireless-exercise-head... -- they are currently recommending JLab Epic2 Bluetooths, with notes on sweat testing.
- gamblor956 10y agoMy Plantronics Backbeat Pros (they're no longer for sale, the new version is called the Backbeat Fit) have lasted 3 years of travel and exercise.
- anthony_romeo 10y agoI was satisfied by the MPOW Swift. I'm a very sweaty guy, and they lasted about eight months of exercise 4-5 days/week before I broke the cheap plastic case. They looked kinda derpy, but they were fine for throwaway $20 exercise earphones. The MPOW Wolverine I bought afterwards to replace them, however, broke after two weeks, so proceed with caution with this company.
- adamnemecek 10y agoJack coming back in 3, 2, 1...
- Taniwha 10y agoYou can't ship them if you keep losing them ....
- Johnie 10y agoI remember a comic strip with two highways: one pointing to road deprecated and other sign says "not ready yet"
- Zarel 10y agoKind of only tangentially related, but I see this sort of thing all the time. KeyboardEvent.keyCode: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/KeyboardEvent/keyCode https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/KeyboardEve... > Deprecated, please use KeyboardEvent.code KeyboardEvent.code: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/KeyboardEvent/code https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/KeyboardEve... > Internet Explorer: No support > Microsoft Edge: No support > Safari: No support
- QuercusMax 10y agoHave you worked at Google? There's a very popular internal comic much like that...
- mountaineer22 10y agoIs this why Dr. Dre stopped tweeting at the end of April?
- beedogs 10y agoBluetooth headphones are a solution in search of a problem.
- jonlucc 10y agoI disagree. I work in a lab (biology), and I listen to podcasts, books, and music for a large part of most days. I currently use wired headphones, but the cord tugs at them all day. In addition, wires get caught. Just today, I was stooping down to put something on the bottom shelf of a freezer, and when I started to stand up, the cord caught on my knee and yanked the headphone right off my ear. This kind of thing happens to me daily. If there were a good, long-lasting (battery-wise), decent sounding pair of headphones, I'd gladly jump on board.
- jdietrich 10y agoRun the cable down the back of your shirt, secured at the collar with a bobby pin.
- jonlucc 10y agoI have to take them on and off a lot for various meetings and encounters. There is probably some solution, but wireless is likely to be the most simple, in my opinion.
- revelation 10y agoWell.. why are you using headphones connected some place not on your body? The dichotomy isn't "wireless" or "long cable to some stationary box", it's "wireless" or "in-ear to music player in your pocket".
- jonlucc 10y agoWhy would you assume I was attached to a stationary box? The headphones go to my phone in my pocket, but there's still extra cord that doesn't stay in my pocket if I put it there.
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