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This is something some people don't understand. Gentrification and things like it aren't only a racial issue. Sometimes you move into an area simply because the

This is something some people don't understand. Gentrification and things like it aren't only a racial issue. Sometimes you move into an area simply because the unemployed drunks and drug addicts can't afford to move there with you. I know I felt relief moving out of an all white trailer park into a suburban neighborhood. Nothing is worse that neighbors who have nothing to do all day but make noise.

Pica_soO 10y ago
Well, one could argue that automating away the jobs and producing those Unemployeds and then complaining about them, constitutes as worser. But i understand your point of view, i helped a friend to move out of a flat that was near a living complex mainly inhabited by collaps-cascading community members. Anyway, constructive criticism, how to prevent such self-destruction? Boarding schools for ghetto children, to avoid prolonged contact with negative examples and behavior?
- cmdrfred 10y ago
  Honestly, I'm not automating anyone out of a job yet. I work in pretty low level IT at the moment. Trying to start my own business. I don't know how you reach people like that. It isn't the majority of them also. Is it mental illness? Addiction? I don't know. Often they come from a long line of people who behave the exact same way. Cops around here jokingly profile on last name, "Oh, your Franks son? We'll be keeping an eye on you" and to be honest I can't really blame them. The best solution I have is simply provide a better ladder of opportunity for everyone. If people feel that they can advance in the world, they might actually attempt to do so.
  - Pica_soO 10y ago
    I guess you would need something counter cultury, that only they have, something like the equivalent in math/science/programming to HipHop. It would need brag-prestige attached to it and the pride of beeing better at it then those looking-down outsiders.
- Grishnakh 10y ago
  There's lots of solutions: 1) forcibly sterilize poorer people so they can't have children 2) ban poorer people from raising their own children, and instead seize them and have the State raise them in institutions (like in "Brave New World") 3) boarding schools for poorer children (you mentioned this) 4) send poorer people to re-education camps to teach the "positive" behaviors and values Obviously, these solutions are not very palatable to most people. If you want solutions which aren't severe human-rights violations, there really aren't any, except subtle, long-term things such as maybe taking control of popular media and using it to slowly indoctrinate the population into "desirable" behaviors and values.
  - Pica_soO 10y ago
    Ah, the merry go round of crime and shame has reached the high point, where all the previous attempts are completely forgotten and requested anew. Three generations, and all the memory is gone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations Boarding schools would have to be voluntarily.

Pica_soO 10y ago

Well, one could argue that automating away the jobs and producing those Unemployeds and then complaining about them, constitutes as worser. But i understand your point of view, i helped a friend to move out of a flat that was near a living complex mainly inhabited by collaps-cascading community members. Anyway, constructive criticism, how to prevent such self-destruction? Boarding schools for ghetto children, to avoid prolonged contact with negative examples and behavior?

cmdrfred 10y ago
Honestly, I'm not automating anyone out of a job yet. I work in pretty low level IT at the moment. Trying to start my own business. I don't know how you reach people like that. It isn't the majority of them also. Is it mental illness? Addiction? I don't know. Often they come from a long line of people who behave the exact same way. Cops around here jokingly profile on last name, "Oh, your Franks son? We'll be keeping an eye on you" and to be honest I can't really blame them. The best solution I have is simply provide a better ladder of opportunity for everyone. If people feel that they can advance in the world, they might actually attempt to do so.
- Pica_soO 10y ago
  I guess you would need something counter cultury, that only they have, something like the equivalent in math/science/programming to HipHop. It would need brag-prestige attached to it and the pride of beeing better at it then those looking-down outsiders.
Grishnakh 10y ago
There's lots of solutions: 1) forcibly sterilize poorer people so they can't have children 2) ban poorer people from raising their own children, and instead seize them and have the State raise them in institutions (like in "Brave New World") 3) boarding schools for poorer children (you mentioned this) 4) send poorer people to re-education camps to teach the "positive" behaviors and values Obviously, these solutions are not very palatable to most people. If you want solutions which aren't severe human-rights violations, there really aren't any, except subtle, long-term things such as maybe taking control of popular media and using it to slowly indoctrinate the population into "desirable" behaviors and values.
- Pica_soO 10y ago
  Ah, the merry go round of crime and shame has reached the high point, where all the previous attempts are completely forgotten and requested anew. Three generations, and all the memory is gone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations Boarding schools would have to be voluntarily.