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So is this the early warning that Prisma's market ownership of this effect will soon come to an end?

minimaxir 10y ago
Prisma never had "ownership" of this effect; the papers of Neural Style transfer have been out for months, with this Google method being another iteration. Prisma was just the first polished app released using style transfer. (However, since the technique is public, it will make an acquisition of Prisma less worthwhile)
- purple-dragon 10y ago
  Sure, but I was talking about market ownership, i.e., the most market share for users looking to achieve this type of effect, not IP ownership.
  - singham 10y ago
    Of what use is market ownership when no one is going to buy you. Facebook is already working on its own style transfer algos.
    - purple-dragon 10y ago
      Yeah, see my original comment at the top of the thread.
Eridrus 10y ago
Prisma was a land grab because the original authors didn't make an app. Hell I started working on my own version at the time since it was such an obvious app. The original authors finally got around to making their DeepArt app, so we have at least two players in this space atm. I think either of these two players will incorporate this research, but there's no clear incentive for anyone else to try and get in on this market now. It's not clear that there's a whole lot of money to be made here, but who knows maybe usage will explode. I mostly expect an acquisition.
- purple-dragon 10y ago
  I imagine we will see many clones when Google open sources their implementation too (as mentioned in the article, along with others mentioned in this thread as well). I wasn't aware of DeepArt. I'll check it out.
  - Eridrus 10y ago
    There are already quite a few open source implementations. Some of them are even pretty decent.
- dharma1 10y ago
  Looks like Zuckerberg is working on a version too - https://www.facebook.com/zuck/videos/10103204449698911/ https://www.facebook.com/zuck/videos/10103204449698911/
- feelix 10y ago
  Plug for my mostly ignored version, that runs on Mac & Windows. It processes high res images unlike Prisma, and runs entirely locally. And can process videos of arbitrary length & resolution. http://macdaddy.io/Style/ http://macdaddy.io/Style/
  - mdrzn 10y ago
    I will try it out on Windows10 in the next days! Seems interesting for processing photos instead of having to use Prisma on Android.

Prisma never had "ownership" of this effect; the papers of Neural Style transfer have been out for months, with this Google method being another iteration. Prisma was just the first polished app released using style transfer. (However, since the technique is public, it will make an acquisition of Prisma less worthwhile)

purple-dragon 10y ago
Sure, but I was talking about market ownership, i.e., the most market share for users looking to achieve this type of effect, not IP ownership.
- singham 10y ago
  Of what use is market ownership when no one is going to buy you. Facebook is already working on its own style transfer algos.
  - purple-dragon 10y ago
    Yeah, see my original comment at the top of the thread.

Eridrus 10y ago

Prisma was a land grab because the original authors didn't make an app. Hell I started working on my own version at the time since it was such an obvious app. The original authors finally got around to making their DeepArt app, so we have at least two players in this space atm. I think either of these two players will incorporate this research, but there's no clear incentive for anyone else to try and get in on this market now. It's not clear that there's a whole lot of money to be made here, but who knows maybe usage will explode. I mostly expect an acquisition.

purple-dragon 10y ago
I imagine we will see many clones when Google open sources their implementation too (as mentioned in the article, along with others mentioned in this thread as well). I wasn't aware of DeepArt. I'll check it out.
- Eridrus 10y ago
  There are already quite a few open source implementations. Some of them are even pretty decent.
dharma1 10y ago
Looks like Zuckerberg is working on a version too - https://www.facebook.com/zuck/videos/10103204449698911/ https://www.facebook.com/zuck/videos/10103204449698911/
feelix 10y ago
Plug for my mostly ignored version, that runs on Mac & Windows. It processes high res images unlike Prisma, and runs entirely locally. And can process videos of arbitrary length & resolution. http://macdaddy.io/Style/ http://macdaddy.io/Style/
- mdrzn 10y ago
  I will try it out on Windows10 in the next days! Seems interesting for processing photos instead of having to use Prisma on Android.