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Although there are not easily comparable atrocities going on often in the West, that does not end the need for feminism out here. Maybe it does for you because

by legodt 10y ago

Although there are not easily comparable atrocities going on often in the West, that does not end the need for feminism out here. Maybe it does for you because at this point it doesn't affect you directly, but we still have a deeply entrenched rape culture where brock turners and Donald Trumps can get away with assault in a very public way. Heck, turn on the tv and just listen for a while. The culture here is still very sexist. Rape victims are still terrified to come forward in America because of the culture stacked against them. I get what you are trying to say but it does not sound like you are fully educated on the matter and it comes across as a narrow world view. Look into intersectionality in feminism and then some discussions about the garbage fire that is colloquially referred to as "white feminism," which is what I believe you are trying to denounce in your post.

Chris2048 10y ago
> deeply entrenched rape culture where Brock Turners and Donald Trumps can get away with assault in a very public way "rape culture", in its original meaning, is a society that allows or encourages rape; Perceived sexism or public allegations of "sexual assault" isn't the same thing. > Rape victims are still terrified to come forward in America because of the culture stacked against them What is this claim based on?
- judahmeek 10y ago
  > "rape culture", in its original meaning, is a society that allows or encourages rape The term "rape culture" was first coined in the 1970s... terms have been known to evolve over time. > What is this claim based on? "From 2006 to 2010, the highest percentages of unreported crime were among household theft (67%) and rape or sexual assault (65%) victimizations, while the lowest percentage was among motor vehicle theft (17%) victimizations." [0] 0: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vnrp0610.pdf https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vnrp0610.pdf
  - Chris2048 10y ago
    > terms have been known to evolve over time And when did this one "evolve"? >> What is this claim based on? The claim was "Rape victims are still terrified to come forward". Further, there are ambiguities in that report: "Rape OR sexual assault"; "Fear of reprisal OR getting offender in trouble" (28%) The difference between each of these two things is important, and certainly impacts the interpretation of results.
    - judahmeek 10y ago
      > The difference between each of these two things is important, and certainly impacts the interpretation of results. How so?
      - Chris2048 10y ago
        One, or the other, can or cannot support the claim "Rape victims are still terrified to come forward". A victim of sexual assault that isn't rape cannot be counted towards this figure, so an aggregate number for both rape and sexual assault isn't helpful.

by legodt 10y ago

Chris2048 10y ago

> deeply entrenched rape culture where Brock Turners and Donald Trumps can get away with assault in a very public way "rape culture", in its original meaning, is a society that allows or encourages rape; Perceived sexism or public allegations of "sexual assault" isn't the same thing. > Rape victims are still terrified to come forward in America because of the culture stacked against them What is this claim based on?

judahmeek 10y ago
> "rape culture", in its original meaning, is a society that allows or encourages rape The term "rape culture" was first coined in the 1970s... terms have been known to evolve over time. > What is this claim based on? "From 2006 to 2010, the highest percentages of unreported crime were among household theft (67%) and rape or sexual assault (65%) victimizations, while the lowest percentage was among motor vehicle theft (17%) victimizations." [0] 0: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vnrp0610.pdf https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vnrp0610.pdf
- Chris2048 10y ago
  > terms have been known to evolve over time And when did this one "evolve"? >> What is this claim based on? The claim was "Rape victims are still terrified to come forward". Further, there are ambiguities in that report: "Rape OR sexual assault"; "Fear of reprisal OR getting offender in trouble" (28%) The difference between each of these two things is important, and certainly impacts the interpretation of results.
  - judahmeek 10y ago
    > The difference between each of these two things is important, and certainly impacts the interpretation of results. How so?
    - Chris2048 10y ago
      One, or the other, can or cannot support the claim "Rape victims are still terrified to come forward". A victim of sexual assault that isn't rape cannot be counted towards this figure, so an aggregate number for both rape and sexual assault isn't helpful.