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Do you never use the Esc key without looking?
by dikaiosune 10y ago
Do you never use the Esc key without looking?
- kauegimenes 10y agoWhat about ctrl + c?
- dikaiosune 10y agoIf I understand your suggestion, ctrl+c doesn't work in all the contexts where I use escape (modal dialogs, editor autocomplete popups, etc).
- hn_user2 10y agoHonestly. Can't really think of when I use escape to give a real answer. I think I could hit it without looking, but I don't think I hit escape that often. Or maybe I use it all the time and won't notice until it's gone. But yeah. If ^[ or caps lock mapping is not an option, and your workflow requires a lot of escape presses, it could be annoying to have to look down to hit it.
- vmasto 10y agoGet out of a dialog quicky. Get out of the OS popup (e.g. File save). Get out of the current context in your editor/IDE (e.g. Search etc) Cancel something. Cmd+esc takes you to the previous up from cmd+tab (instead of cmd+shift+tab). Ever wanted to cancel drag and drop?! Honestly the Esc key is indispensible.
- eric_h 10y ago> Cmd+esc takes you to the previous up from cmd+tab I've always used cmd+~ for that
- x0x0 10y agoexactly -- vim users who haven't transitioned to ^[ hit it all the time Also, this looks to me like yet another not-particularly-useful tentpole 'feature' when I really wish they would spend some quality time fixing abundant os and finder bugs.
- yoz-y 10y agoWhy transition to a double key combo rather than use CapsLock as Esc? The other quite useful "universal" key is the § key on a European mac keyboard (which is for some insane reason just under Esc where ` normally would be)
- x0x0 10y agoBecause your fingers stay in the normal location. To hit escape, I have to either lift my left hand or rotate sharply at the wrist.
- yoz-y 10y agoYes, but you capslock is more accessible than the ctrl key in my opinion. I quite like the option to remap capslock to both ctrl (when used with another key) and to esc when pressed alone, that was suggested in other comments.
- michaelmachine 10y agoI only use it for escaping from a full screen view on youtube
- inopinatus 10y agoI hit Esc without looking all the time. It's how I dismiss modals. I foresee a good deal of ` in my future. I have also learned to find the keyboard backlight brightness keys in pitch darkness.
- Ar-Curunir 10y agoWhy would anyone use Esc over CapsLock?
- ghshephard 10y agoBecause they've mapped CapsLock to CTRL?
- jooize 10y agoThey should map both Control and Escape to Caps Lock. Control when combined with other key or held for longer than 250 ms, and Escape when pressed and released within 250 ms.
- ghshephard 10y agoThat's awesome, I had no idea you could do that. MacOS Sierra? Doesn't appear to be present in El Capitan Modifier keys - or is it a third party utility?
- adamwathan 10y agoCan do it using Karabiner (https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/ https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/). Sadly doesn't support Sierra properly yet.
- jtokoph 10y agoCheck out ControllerMate. It lets you remap anything with complex logic.
- floatboth 10y agoThe original blog post that introduced me to this setup describes macOS setup: http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/a-modern-space-cadet/#control-escape http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/a-modern-space-cadet/#cont... On X11, https://github.com/alols/xcape https://github.com/alols/xcape just run `xcape -t 350 -e 'Control_L=Escape'` On Windows, AutoHotkey: https://github.com/myfreeweb/dotfiles/blob/32c9cfd8d5e0a3a2c42c929f10cee9edea0e42fb/windows/keyboardstuff.ahk https://github.com/myfreeweb/dotfiles/blob/32c9cfd8d5e0a3a2c...
- jperras 10y agoI hit Esc without looking about 500 times a day. As does nearly every Vim user in existence, I imagine.
- ikawe 10y agos/day/hour
- eric_h 10y agoHaha, yeah - 500/day definitely seemed low to me
- jperras 10y agoTo be honest, my ratio is probably more like 750/hour, considering that I do 100% of my work in terminal windows, use nvim as my main code editor, use a tiling window manager (whose keybindings include escape for some sequences), use mutt for email, newsbeuter for rss feeds, weechat for irc… I just didn't want to seem overly hyperbolic in my original post :)
- eric_h 10y agoNot a vim user (but I know how to use it-ish). The escape key as the key in vim always struck me as an odd choice, ergonomically. Of course, I've mapped ctrl to the caps lock key, so...
- vacri 10y agoThe original vi was created on a keyboard that had Esc in the place where CapsLock now lives (on a standard US or UK English 104-key keyboard)
- phaemon 10y agoThe original `vi` was written on an ADM-3A terminal. If you have a look at the keyboard layout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-3A#/media/File:KB_Terminal_ADM3A.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-3A#/media/File:KB_Terminal... You can not only see why Esc was easy to hit, but also the arrow keys (and, in common with other terminals of the time, why "home" is "~")
- santaclaus 10y agoI'm thinking it'll be rad to map the entire bar to escape for vim use.