I think you're missing my point which is that no one should have to have a job to work or to live. Work isn't just 8-5 cubicle or factory setting nonsense. Clea

I think you're missing my point which is that no one should have to have a job to work or to live. Work isn't just 8-5 cubicle or factory setting nonsense. Cleaning your laundry is work. Cooking is work. Telling a story is work. Carving wooden figurines is work. But they don't have to be jobs. They don't have to follow an 8-5 schedule. And most importantly, the benefits of that work doesn't have to be majoratively sold at a discount to capitalists. To have housing, food, or medical care shouldn't come with the condition of repetitive drudgery. If a machine can do the drudgery then get the human out of it as soon as possible. This isn't entirely utopian either considering many kinds of work in textiles and plastics have been automated away. The same goes for building electronics to a point where all most people are tasked with is QA or packing (hell, I've seen machines replace people in packing and warehouse work). What has to change is our legal and social dynamics around who owns the wealth of production. Once we socialize the capital we can discuss whether or not we should have drudgery for it's own sake.