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Won't you miss macOS? It is not just about the hardware, it is the combination of the macbook with the OS.

by visionscaper 10y ago

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curiousgal 10y ago
Hackintoshs are a thing.
- ylhert 10y ago
  hackintoshs are a giant, giant pain in the ass. I've been building hackintoshs since the close to the beginning of that scene (2009 or so) and have built around 5-6 hackintoshs, as recently as 3 months ago. It always has been and always will be a sucky experience that is a pain even for people who know what they are doing, ESPECIALLY for laptops. Most people who are technically inclined are better off just going to *nix
  - fatratchet 10y ago
    For laptops I agree, lots of pain, but for desktops I've never had any major issues with the last 3 Intel+Nvidia PCs I've had over the years, always worked really well. For me the only downside really is the extra reboot after an OS update every 2 months to update nvidia driver and repatch sound kext.
  - igravious 10y ago
    The question then must be … why do you do it?
    - ylhert 10y ago
      I stopped. I kept going back to it because I love hacking on things and I love mac os and hate apple's markup on hardware, but I've learned my lesson at this point and will not attempt another hackintosh build.
WayneBro 10y ago
Having used Windows 10 + the Ubuntu Linux subsystem for a while now I think it's safe to say that the only reason I'll ever use a Mac again is if I am developing for iOS. Macs are still shipping with 10-year-old GNU utilities. LOL
- illuminati1911 10y ago
  Having used the "linux" subsystem under Windows 10 with all of its problems, issues and limitations it is now clear that there is never going to be decent/smooth and reliable UNIX-dev experience under windows. No matter how much the Microsoft marketing guys try to feed us that BS. Maybe if one day Windows goes 100% UNIX.
ComputerGuru 10y ago
I used Mac because it gave me a great UX with access to all my favorite command line tools and a posix API I could build against. With Windows 10 finally shipping a real, supported posix target (Ubuntu for Windows - what an unfortunate name) vs the years of Interix (R) which was discontinued and replaced by "Linux subsystem for Windows" which was discontinued without a replacement until Nadella's "Ubuntu/Bash for Windows", I now no longer have need for OS X. Plus, Apple doesn't care about macOS. HFS has bitrotted away, the OS itself has taken backseat to mobile, and Apple doesn't know if it cares enough about its enterprise and power users to even release "point releases" of their products - how much engineering tech does it take to replace a Haswell CPU with a Broadwell with no fanfare or ado? Just do it and make it available?
- mrsteveman1 10y ago
  > Plus, Apple doesn't care about macOS. HFS has bitrotted away HFS is already being replaced with APFS which is excellent feature-wise, and is available in Sierra for testing purposes. I expect at this time next year we'll be seeing them use it by default on new macOS and iOS devices.

Won't you miss macOS? It is not just about the hardware, it is the combination of the macbook with the OS.

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curiousgal 10y ago

Hackintoshs are a thing.

ylhert 10y ago
hackintoshs are a giant, giant pain in the ass. I've been building hackintoshs since the close to the beginning of that scene (2009 or so) and have built around 5-6 hackintoshs, as recently as 3 months ago. It always has been and always will be a sucky experience that is a pain even for people who know what they are doing, ESPECIALLY for laptops. Most people who are technically inclined are better off just going to *nix
- fatratchet 10y ago
  For laptops I agree, lots of pain, but for desktops I've never had any major issues with the last 3 Intel+Nvidia PCs I've had over the years, always worked really well. For me the only downside really is the extra reboot after an OS update every 2 months to update nvidia driver and repatch sound kext.
- igravious 10y ago
  The question then must be … why do you do it?
  - ylhert 10y ago
    I stopped. I kept going back to it because I love hacking on things and I love mac os and hate apple's markup on hardware, but I've learned my lesson at this point and will not attempt another hackintosh build.

WayneBro 10y ago

Having used Windows 10 + the Ubuntu Linux subsystem for a while now I think it's safe to say that the only reason I'll ever use a Mac again is if I am developing for iOS. Macs are still shipping with 10-year-old GNU utilities. LOL

illuminati1911 10y ago
Having used the "linux" subsystem under Windows 10 with all of its problems, issues and limitations it is now clear that there is never going to be decent/smooth and reliable UNIX-dev experience under windows. No matter how much the Microsoft marketing guys try to feed us that BS. Maybe if one day Windows goes 100% UNIX.

ComputerGuru 10y ago

I used Mac because it gave me a great UX with access to all my favorite command line tools and a posix API I could build against. With Windows 10 finally shipping a real, supported posix target (Ubuntu for Windows - what an unfortunate name) vs the years of Interix (R) which was discontinued and replaced by "Linux subsystem for Windows" which was discontinued without a replacement until Nadella's "Ubuntu/Bash for Windows", I now no longer have need for OS X. Plus, Apple doesn't care about macOS. HFS has bitrotted away, the OS itself has taken backseat to mobile, and Apple doesn't know if it cares enough about its enterprise and power users to even release "point releases" of their products - how much engineering tech does it take to replace a Haswell CPU with a Broadwell with no fanfare or ado? Just do it and make it available?

mrsteveman1 10y ago
> Plus, Apple doesn't care about macOS. HFS has bitrotted away HFS is already being replaced with APFS which is excellent feature-wise, and is available in Sierra for testing purposes. I expect at this time next year we'll be seeing them use it by default on new macOS and iOS devices.