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NPOV == Neutral Point of View for those wondering. Wikipedia strives for "just the facts", but as you point out they don't have it everywhere. Most of the art
by daveguy 10y ago
NPOV == Neutral Point of View for those wondering. Wikipedia strives for "just the facts", but as you point out they don't have it everywhere. Most of the articles are very good or at least acknowledge where there is bias that should be resolved.
- Lawtonfogle 10y agoEven 'just the facts' Is broken because one cannot tell if all facts were given or if only certain facts were given designed to create some view. For example, given two studies that find opposing results, I can then list all the criticisms of the study I don't like while listing only the least significant criticisms of the study I do like. As long as I don't claim to have listed all criticisms, I have given 'just the facts' and yet made an quite biased article.
- mzw_mzw 10y agoEven "just the facts" is a fallacy. Wikipedia has simply outsourced its fact-checking to the news media, which is... well, how to put this... not very interested in facts.
- shard972 10y agoI think that's the most damning thing about the truth on Wikipedia, not that any article can be edited by anyone but their policy of second hand sources over primary sources. There is reasons for doing it but when you get into certain fields it just becomes a cluster F.
- mzw_mzw 10y agoPresumably they don't want to put themselves in the business of determining if a primary source is legitimate or if some random pseudonymous writer's original research is accurate. Not an unreasonable desire! Except instead they've put themselves in the business of determining if a secondary source is legitimate, which isn't fundamentally better. Wikipedia has to come to terms with the fact that if you claim you're making an encyclopedia that comes with certain expectations, namely, that you've verified the facts you are printing. They try to obfuscate this with endless layers of rules and procedure, but that no more eliminates the need to check facts than credit default swaps eliminated the need to pay back debt.
- posterboy 10y agoI think the N stands for No as in NOR="no original research"
- PDoyle 10y agoWhy post your opinion without even doing the simplest of google searches? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_vie...
- posterboy 10y agoThe comment was stupid, and worded badly at that. Past tense would have been accurate. Maybe I should take these guidelines for forum comments as well, sometimes. My POV wasn't important, sorry.