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Your question was how do you defeat the 5$ wrench, not how do you tell them tax-man to f himself. If state actors use the 5$ wrench, that's illegal and consequ
by livingparadox 10y ago
Your question was how do you defeat the 5$ wrench, not how do you tell them tax-man to f himself.
If state actors use the 5$ wrench, that's illegal and consequently you have the defense of the courts to counter that behavior. Civil forfeiture is dependent on being able to "prosecute" your stuff, rather than you. So if they can't seize it, they have to go after you directly, which puts the burden of proof on the prosecution to demonstrate that the money is unlawfully possessed. The fundamental principle of the US court system is "innocent until proven guilty", so you don't have to prove what your income is, they have to prove it. You only need to counter their claims.
- ac29 10y ago> Civil forfeiture is dependent on being able to "prosecute" your stuff, rather than you. So if they can't seize it, they have to go after you directly. The US certainly has had cases prosecuting "stuff" where said stuff is cryptocurrency. See "United States v. 178.95842915 Bitcoins" [0], which appears to be a civil forfeiture case [1][2]. [0] https://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2016/bitcoinauction/index.html https://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2016/bitcoinauction/index.... [1] https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/10752506/United_States_of_America_v_17895842915_Bitcoins https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/10752506/United_Sta... [2] https://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/washington/waedce/4:2016cv05017/71480/16 https://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/washin...
- livingparadox 10y agoTo prosecute your stuff, they still have to confirm its existence. You don't have to prove it doesn't exist.