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>it seems to can expect even more of the same from the next president This is the saddest thing about this election. Everyone is so distracted by the Trump bu

>it seems to can expect even more of the same from the next president This is the saddest thing about this election. Everyone is so distracted by the Trump buffoonery that a Generic Politician (tm) is going to take the reins and continue policies we've been bitter about for years. And most will see this as a "good thing" ("At least it's not Trump!")

llamataboot 10y ago
To be fair, having a professional political class, having politics infested with large amounts of money, and having a two party system make it pretty sure odds that by the time someone gets to the level of "serious presidential contender" that they want to preserve the status-quo in most of these things. We did get two decent outsider runs this year, and I do wish Bernie Sanders was mopping the floor with Trump, but there are limits to the amount a President can do when the entire process rewards pay-to-play, incremental change, and preserving business-as-usual. And, to be fair, it's pretty great that it's not Trump. But yes, it was a horribly sad election. In some ways HRC represents everything that is wrong about politics in the US, and Trump represents everything that is wrong about, well, pretty much everything.
- jjawssd 10y ago
  Why are you so upset over Trump? Is it because he is mean to people he doesn't agree with? How do you hold Bernie in a higher esteem? Trump has a far better track record.
sremani 10y ago
Trump gets blame, Hillary gets blame, Dubya gets blame but hello, what about the guy who is in charge for the past 8 years, will he be held accountable?
- atom_enger 10y ago
  Who is in charge?
  - wu-ikkyu 10y ago
    Nobody. It's a runaway train. Blaming any one individual is naive and pointless.
- kyleblarson 10y ago
  Of course not. Are you racist or something?
- rasz_pl 10y ago
  At least he did deliver on his election promise to close Gitmo.
cloudjacker 10y ago
A lot of people see it as a rare opportunity to ditch the current establishment. A lot of people know the repercussions of mentioning anything that sounds like affinity toward Trump. A lot of people know the inefficiencies in the Republican nomination process and the inefficiencies in the Democratic nomination process that promote the dichotomy being presented. The point is, not everyone is distracted by that.
CaptSpify 10y ago
And that's the point. With the two party system we keep encouraging by voting against the "other team" ensures that nothing really changes.

llamataboot 10y ago

To be fair, having a professional political class, having politics infested with large amounts of money, and having a two party system make it pretty sure odds that by the time someone gets to the level of "serious presidential contender" that they want to preserve the status-quo in most of these things. We did get two decent outsider runs this year, and I do wish Bernie Sanders was mopping the floor with Trump, but there are limits to the amount a President can do when the entire process rewards pay-to-play, incremental change, and preserving business-as-usual. And, to be fair, it's pretty great that it's not Trump. But yes, it was a horribly sad election. In some ways HRC represents everything that is wrong about politics in the US, and Trump represents everything that is wrong about, well, pretty much everything.

jjawssd 10y ago
Why are you so upset over Trump? Is it because he is mean to people he doesn't agree with? How do you hold Bernie in a higher esteem? Trump has a far better track record.

sremani 10y ago

Trump gets blame, Hillary gets blame, Dubya gets blame but hello, what about the guy who is in charge for the past 8 years, will he be held accountable?

atom_enger 10y ago
Who is in charge?
- wu-ikkyu 10y ago
  Nobody. It's a runaway train. Blaming any one individual is naive and pointless.
kyleblarson 10y ago
Of course not. Are you racist or something?
rasz_pl 10y ago
At least he did deliver on his election promise to close Gitmo.

cloudjacker 10y ago

A lot of people see it as a rare opportunity to ditch the current establishment. A lot of people know the repercussions of mentioning anything that sounds like affinity toward Trump. A lot of people know the inefficiencies in the Republican nomination process and the inefficiencies in the Democratic nomination process that promote the dichotomy being presented. The point is, not everyone is distracted by that.

CaptSpify 10y ago

And that's the point. With the two party system we keep encouraging by voting against the "other team" ensures that nothing really changes.