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So you're a 50 year old truck driver. High School education, no college, but a damn good driver. What exactly do you think he's going to retrain? A few weeks at

by greedo 10y ago

So you're a 50 year old truck driver. High School education, no college, but a damn good driver. What exactly do you think he's going to retrain? A few weeks at a bootcamp and he'll be a rock star coder, pulling in the $60k/year he made working his ass off on the road? Please. Less simplistic "solutions" that have continually failed workers.

Godel_unicode 10y ago
It's worked for every other industry that was displaced by technology, but This Time It's Different? The US was over 70% farm labor in the 1800s, where do you think those truck drivers came from? Edit: also, one hardly needs to be a rockstar to make $60k/year as a coder. If you can write a coherent select in VBA you can make that.
- losteverything 10y ago
  Serious question. Would the 60k include 33 days off paid per year and very good benefits (25% employee 75% employet)?
- greedo 10y ago
  Where do you get that it's worked in every other industry? Using the Industrial Revolution/Farming revolution is not even applicable since jobs shifted from one manual job to another. And again, you think a 50 year old truck driver, who hasn't done any schooling 32 years, is going to be able to do SQL statements. And find a job at that age. I'd love to think that, but the IT industry has shown huge levels of ageism, and isn't exactly overflowing with entry-level jobs.
grecy 10y ago
> So you're a 50 year old truck driver Only 15 years till retirement. I feel quite certain there will still be a lot of "human" driven vehicles on and off the road in 15 years, even if self-driving really takes off. We just need to make sure no "new" drivers are going into the business.
- maxerickson 10y ago
  It depends on how much the system costs. A system licensed to drive without supervision takes your max weekly long haul hours on the $150,000 tractor-trailer from 70 to 168 hours (obviously you won't ever get 168 hours with loading/unloading). So if you can retrofit for $50,000 or $75,000, you do it as soon as you possibly can.

by greedo 10y ago

Godel_unicode 10y ago

It's worked for every other industry that was displaced by technology, but This Time It's Different? The US was over 70% farm labor in the 1800s, where do you think those truck drivers came from? Edit: also, one hardly needs to be a rockstar to make $60k/year as a coder. If you can write a coherent select in VBA you can make that.

losteverything 10y ago
Serious question. Would the 60k include 33 days off paid per year and very good benefits (25% employee 75% employet)?
greedo 10y ago
Where do you get that it's worked in every other industry? Using the Industrial Revolution/Farming revolution is not even applicable since jobs shifted from one manual job to another. And again, you think a 50 year old truck driver, who hasn't done any schooling 32 years, is going to be able to do SQL statements. And find a job at that age. I'd love to think that, but the IT industry has shown huge levels of ageism, and isn't exactly overflowing with entry-level jobs.

grecy 10y ago

> So you're a 50 year old truck driver Only 15 years till retirement. I feel quite certain there will still be a lot of "human" driven vehicles on and off the road in 15 years, even if self-driving really takes off. We just need to make sure no "new" drivers are going into the business.

maxerickson 10y ago
It depends on how much the system costs. A system licensed to drive without supervision takes your max weekly long haul hours on the $150,000 tractor-trailer from 70 to 168 hours (obviously you won't ever get 168 hours with loading/unloading). So if you can retrofit for $50,000 or $75,000, you do it as soon as you possibly can.