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Haskell and its advocates talk a big, big game about its supposed strengths in these areas, but there are suspiciously few examples of these strengths actually

Haskell and its advocates talk a big, big game about its supposed strengths in these areas, but there are suspiciously few examples of these strengths actually manifesting in anything but toy or academic projects. I've been hearing about Haskell's supposed miracles for years and years, and I've never, never seen them.

chongli 10y ago
Then you haven't been paying much attention to Haskell which can be forgiven because it's still pretty niche compared to Python or JS. The best example I can give you is the Haxl project at Facebook [0]. [0] https://github.com/facebook/Haxl https://github.com/facebook/Haxl
- bertiewhykovich 10y ago
  Haxl is one of the standard two or three examples. I want to see a non-Haxl example.
iLemming 10y ago
Many things that emerged at Facebook during recent years can be attributed to the influence of Haskell. React, Immutable.js, GraphQL, etc. Haskell is extremely powerful but allow me to rephrase Euclid "There's no royal road to functional programming". If you want something more pragmatic, yet still quite expressive and powerful - try Clojure and Clojurescript. Especially Clojurescript - it's probably one of the best languages out there to use for front-end and mobile app development.
merijnv 10y ago
A lot of stuff happens behind closed doors. Standard Chartered Bank has 1.5 million LOC of GHC Haskell and another 1 million LOC of their own internal Haskell implementation. I'm also aware of another 5 or so big banks having/building Haskell teams for developing internal tools, but all this stuff is hidden. The biggest, public, project I'd say is FaceBook's Haxl (as pointed out elsewhere in this thread).
- bertiewhykovich 10y ago
  Standard Chartered is the other standard example. The only significant Haskell codebases anyone mentions are Standard Chartered, Haxl, maybe Barclays, and the GHC itself. It's pretty damning.
  - tome 10y ago
    Galois, several startups ...

chongli 10y ago

Then you haven't been paying much attention to Haskell which can be forgiven because it's still pretty niche compared to Python or JS. The best example I can give you is the Haxl project at Facebook [0]. [0] https://github.com/facebook/Haxl https://github.com/facebook/Haxl

bertiewhykovich 10y ago
Haxl is one of the standard two or three examples. I want to see a non-Haxl example.

iLemming 10y ago

Many things that emerged at Facebook during recent years can be attributed to the influence of Haskell. React, Immutable.js, GraphQL, etc. Haskell is extremely powerful but allow me to rephrase Euclid "There's no royal road to functional programming". If you want something more pragmatic, yet still quite expressive and powerful - try Clojure and Clojurescript. Especially Clojurescript - it's probably one of the best languages out there to use for front-end and mobile app development.

merijnv 10y ago

A lot of stuff happens behind closed doors. Standard Chartered Bank has 1.5 million LOC of GHC Haskell and another 1 million LOC of their own internal Haskell implementation. I'm also aware of another 5 or so big banks having/building Haskell teams for developing internal tools, but all this stuff is hidden. The biggest, public, project I'd say is FaceBook's Haxl (as pointed out elsewhere in this thread).

bertiewhykovich 10y ago
Standard Chartered is the other standard example. The only significant Haskell codebases anyone mentions are Standard Chartered, Haxl, maybe Barclays, and the GHC itself. It's pretty damning.
- tome 10y ago
  Galois, several startups ...