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I think a lot of the discipline here will come from people training themselves as they realize they aren't being efficient with their usage of the program. This

I think a lot of the discipline here will come from people training themselves as they realize they aren't being efficient with their usage of the program. This idea allows for more fine tuning of your habits. Where the IRC-style room-based chats are quite static in nature, this idea seems to allow for more dynamic allocation of what you choose to watch. I like the idea. It would be tough to roll my team over to it, but I could see something like a Slack add-on with similar functionality being something I would use!

jacob_de_snacob 10y ago
ew you said the S word seriously though, thanks for the kind words :)
- christofosho 10y ago
  Haha, hey, it was enough effort to convince them all to move from SKYPE + IRC, so I am proud of that accomplishment. But yeah, keep it up! Will definitely be watching this project. :)
taurath 10y ago
We've tried "topic" rooms many times but most conversation still goes back to "general interface" rooms between teams, which requires all of the scrolling up. It seems to be the "persistency" of rooms that grabs you - after a while those old rooms become dead and you start to assume no "up to date" information is in them. Its much closer to a forum post than a chat - it kinda brings up an idea of a "modern" forum for ideas - vBulletin style forums are so ubiquitous and "old" feeling it would put people off, but with modern extensive UIs it could be a great experience.
- jacob_de_snacob 10y ago
  that's the idea behind it :-) I think conversations are like most living things they're born, they live their life, and then they die so I just tried to capture that idea in software-form tons of conversations that don't stray off-topic, with an easy way to search for their remnants in the future --------------- I think email/forums are already more ideal than the group chat tools out there, they just come with the downside of having to refresh the page constantly, and usually have poor formatting options so I just tried to merge the best parts of both applications together :)
  - erlend_sh 10y ago
    We're playing around with these concepts in Discourse as well: https://meta.discourse.org/t/speccing-out-a-full-page-chat-plugin/49430?u=erlend_sh https://meta.discourse.org/t/speccing-out-a-full-page-chat-p... You're very welcome to join the discussion/development! Send an email to erlend@discourse.org if you wanna bounce some ideas around.
  - taurath 10y ago
    I do agree - I've seen a huge move of my social groups to move towards IRC-style chat rooms (Telegram specifically) and it actually becomes extremely difficult to organize "real-life" meetups on them (you can pin a meetup if its "public" to the group you're in, or create another group... that has no expiration date). This creates a system where "the group" becomes a system to be managed in itself, rather than a conversation that people can pop into and out of whenever their interests align or not. Emphasizing the "fluidity" of real conversations and social groups and just how ideas pop up and die down seems a great benefit - I'd love to work on something like that.

jacob_de_snacob 10y ago

ew you said the S word seriously though, thanks for the kind words :)

christofosho 10y ago
Haha, hey, it was enough effort to convince them all to move from SKYPE + IRC, so I am proud of that accomplishment. But yeah, keep it up! Will definitely be watching this project. :)

taurath 10y ago

We've tried "topic" rooms many times but most conversation still goes back to "general interface" rooms between teams, which requires all of the scrolling up. It seems to be the "persistency" of rooms that grabs you - after a while those old rooms become dead and you start to assume no "up to date" information is in them. Its much closer to a forum post than a chat - it kinda brings up an idea of a "modern" forum for ideas - vBulletin style forums are so ubiquitous and "old" feeling it would put people off, but with modern extensive UIs it could be a great experience.

jacob_de_snacob 10y ago
that's the idea behind it :-) I think conversations are like most living things they're born, they live their life, and then they die so I just tried to capture that idea in software-form tons of conversations that don't stray off-topic, with an easy way to search for their remnants in the future --------------- I think email/forums are already more ideal than the group chat tools out there, they just come with the downside of having to refresh the page constantly, and usually have poor formatting options so I just tried to merge the best parts of both applications together :)
- erlend_sh 10y ago
  We're playing around with these concepts in Discourse as well: https://meta.discourse.org/t/speccing-out-a-full-page-chat-plugin/49430?u=erlend_sh https://meta.discourse.org/t/speccing-out-a-full-page-chat-p... You're very welcome to join the discussion/development! Send an email to erlend@discourse.org if you wanna bounce some ideas around.
- taurath 10y ago
  I do agree - I've seen a huge move of my social groups to move towards IRC-style chat rooms (Telegram specifically) and it actually becomes extremely difficult to organize "real-life" meetups on them (you can pin a meetup if its "public" to the group you're in, or create another group... that has no expiration date). This creates a system where "the group" becomes a system to be managed in itself, rather than a conversation that people can pop into and out of whenever their interests align or not. Emphasizing the "fluidity" of real conversations and social groups and just how ideas pop up and die down seems a great benefit - I'd love to work on something like that.