> You might not garden w/ no equitable return on house value (or at least not build a large gardening setup) The return is the experience and joy of gardening,

> You might not garden w/ no equitable return on house value (or at least not build a large gardening setup) The return is the experience and joy of gardening, which occurs whether I own or rent. > landlords feel the same way in reverse (no benefit to them to do anything beyond the minimum once it's inhabited) I'm willing to pay more in rent for a higher quality residence. A well maintained garden (or the tools to make one) would certainly count towards quality. > Except you may be more nomadic. Also you missed the GP's use of the word "stakeholder" of which you are considerably less of if you don't own land in the community Even if I live in a place for a single week, I don't want to live in a shithole for that week. My experience living in a neighborhood makes me a stakeholder, even if I don't own land there.