Does anyone know what startup times are like for apps using these bindings? When I tried CocoaTouch, admittedly several years ago, "Hello World" applications t

Does anyone know what startup times are like for apps using these bindings? When I tried CocoaTouch, admittedly several years ago, "Hello World" applications took ~10 seconds to launch (I lost count of the 'number of bounces'.) I think that after that point performance probably scaled quite well, but just that alone was enough to make me look elsewhere for desktop OS X programming.