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I found Hexen and Heretic a collection of boring slogs. Neither are particularly enjoyable, IMHO. Now Strife, OTOH... Quake was actually quite a lot of fun, e

I found Hexen and Heretic a collection of boring slogs. Neither are particularly enjoyable, IMHO. Now Strife, OTOH... Quake was actually quite a lot of fun, especially in MP. Singleplayer was quite good as well, but it's not as good as Doom's: Technical limitations mean that you don't get the massive waves of enemies of varying power, instead getting maybe a strong enemy or two, and a weak enemy or two, as there can only be ~7 enemies on screen at once (at least, on the hardware of the time).

sdegutis 10y ago
Yeah but Quake was the first Doom clone where you could actually aim in two dimensions, X and Y! Doom's only letting you aim in X felt a bit cheesy and limited after playing Quake. Especially Quake 2 with mods, those were extremely fun times.
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  Yeah, but it was fun cheesy. Quake really came into its own in MP, where it and its descendants are unparalleled to this day. Quake 3, and QuakeWorld probably being the best. Another good MP shooter is Xonotic: it run on a heavily extended Quake engine, and it's pretty cool.
- prefect42 10y ago
  Unless I'm remembering out of order, heXen/heretic had two axis aiming before quake. Doom being locked on one axis was a tad cheesy. Also which one of those had the Chicken Gun ;-) Another fun MP game was Rise of the Triad.
  - rangibaby 10y ago
    They had "freelook" but it was horrible: http://zdoom.org/wiki/Y-shearing http://zdoom.org/wiki/Y-shearing
    - projektir 10y ago
      I thought the weirdness of it added to the atmosphere. The controls were clunky, though.
      - rangibaby 10y ago
        > The controls were clunky, though. Especially with the flying item IIRC, that was impossible!
projektir 10y ago
My point is that it's subjective, and Doom simply happens to be the first monumental game of that sort so it is also the most popular one.

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I found Hexen and Heretic a collection of boring slogs. Neither are particularly enjoyable, IMHO. Now Strife, OTOH... Quake was actually quite a lot of fun, e

by qwertyuiop924 10y ago

sdegutis 10y ago
Yeah but Quake was the first Doom clone where you could actually aim in two dimensions, X and Y! Doom's only letting you aim in X felt a bit cheesy and limited after playing Quake. Especially Quake 2 with mods, those were extremely fun times.
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  Yeah, but it was fun cheesy. Quake really came into its own in MP, where it and its descendants are unparalleled to this day. Quake 3, and QuakeWorld probably being the best. Another good MP shooter is Xonotic: it run on a heavily extended Quake engine, and it's pretty cool.
- prefect42 10y ago
  Unless I'm remembering out of order, heXen/heretic had two axis aiming before quake. Doom being locked on one axis was a tad cheesy. Also which one of those had the Chicken Gun ;-) Another fun MP game was Rise of the Triad.
  - rangibaby 10y ago
    They had "freelook" but it was horrible: http://zdoom.org/wiki/Y-shearing http://zdoom.org/wiki/Y-shearing
    - projektir 10y ago
      I thought the weirdness of it added to the atmosphere. The controls were clunky, though.
      - rangibaby 10y ago
        > The controls were clunky, though. Especially with the flying item IIRC, that was impossible!
projektir 10y ago
My point is that it's subjective, and Doom simply happens to be the first monumental game of that sort so it is also the most popular one.