> A probably small creative team simply made an error while building a camera in good faith that was abused by criminals. Who is the victim here? Everyone who'

> A probably small creative team simply made an error while building a camera in good faith that was abused by criminals. Who is the victim here? Everyone who's been affected by the DDOS. Manufacturers are responsible for the security of their devices. If you ship something that's vulnerable, it's you to fix it. If there are damages, those come out of your pocket. > It's the IETF that needs to step up. Not the guys in a garage who couldn't code. No. If you're a guy in a garage who can't code, you shouldn't be writing code, let alone shipping devices. Are you for real, or some kind of astroturf account?