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Mac Pro, Apple Watch, Pencil, Apple Music were not iterations. There was nothing similar before them from Apple.

Mathnerd314 10y ago
Pencil and Watch were projects in the pipeline around the time Steve Jobs died, e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20150907064440/http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-stylus-ipad-2015-8 https://web.archive.org/web/20150907064440/http://www.busine... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/watch/11452455/History-of-the-Apple-Watch.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/watch/11452455/H... Apple Music is a logical continuation of the Beats Music store: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beats_Music https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beats_Music. Mac Pro was released in 2006: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Pro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Pro It's not clear if there's anything new in development at Apple.
- vaishaksuresh 10y ago
  I am not sure you understand what I'm saying. I did not say Tim Cook thought of them, I said they were not iterations.
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strictnein 10y ago
The Mac Pro is an overpriced fancy computer case, nothing more.
- vaishaksuresh 10y ago
  That is like saying iPhone is a fancy version of old Nokia phones and nothing more.
  - strictnein 10y ago
    Not in the slightest. The iPhone's UI was far superior, as was its hardware. What's special about the Mac Pro other than its case design? And what would change in how the Mac Pro functions if its guts were instead in the old Mac Pro case? All of the guts are just an Intel processor, AMD video cards, etc. There isn't some custom magical chip in there.
    - vaishaksuresh 10y ago
      You should really look at http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ You cannot just add the components to any case and get the same thing.
      - strictnein 10y ago
        There's literally nothing here that you can't put in a normal case: http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/ http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/ Intel Processor AMD video cards PCIe Storage Again, what magic does the case add?
        vaishaksuresh 10y ago
        For starters, there is the core that acts like a heatsink. Then there is also the smaller profile. I don't know if you've seen the previous Mac Pros, but they were huge. Also your argument does not add up! Are you saying it is not great because the components are off the shelf? Going by that logic, all the modern cars have the same IC engine. The Mac Pro clearly has more capable hardware, why is that not enough? why does it have to be a magic chip?
        strictnein 10y ago
        My original statement was that the Mac Pro was a fancy computer case, nothing more. You state: > "For starters, there is the core that acts like a heatsink. Then there is also the smaller profile." Which is exactly my point. > "The Mac Pro clearly has more capable hardware, why is that not enough?" In what way? Seriously. You said it was "off the shelf" components and then it somehow has more capable hardware? How does that work? Because it has a unique cooling mechanism?
pier25 10y ago
The 2013 Mac pro was a very powerful Mac Mini with lots of terrible design choices. So many pros hated it and Apple hasn't bothered to upgrade it in 3 years. The Watch and Pencil are accessories, like the AirPods. Apple Music isn't that big of a deal.

Pencil and Watch were projects in the pipeline around the time Steve Jobs died, e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20150907064440/http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-stylus-ipad-2015-8 https://web.archive.org/web/20150907064440/http://www.busine... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/watch/11452455/History-of-the-Apple-Watch.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/watch/11452455/H... Apple Music is a logical continuation of the Beats Music store: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beats_Music https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beats_Music. Mac Pro was released in 2006: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Pro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Pro It's not clear if there's anything new in development at Apple.

vaishaksuresh 10y ago
I am not sure you understand what I'm saying. I did not say Tim Cook thought of them, I said they were not iterations.

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strictnein 10y ago

The Mac Pro is an overpriced fancy computer case, nothing more.

vaishaksuresh 10y ago
That is like saying iPhone is a fancy version of old Nokia phones and nothing more.
- strictnein 10y ago
  Not in the slightest. The iPhone's UI was far superior, as was its hardware. What's special about the Mac Pro other than its case design? And what would change in how the Mac Pro functions if its guts were instead in the old Mac Pro case? All of the guts are just an Intel processor, AMD video cards, etc. There isn't some custom magical chip in there.
  - vaishaksuresh 10y ago
    You should really look at http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ You cannot just add the components to any case and get the same thing.
    - strictnein 10y ago
      There's literally nothing here that you can't put in a normal case: http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/ http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/ Intel Processor AMD video cards PCIe Storage Again, what magic does the case add?
      - vaishaksuresh 10y ago
        For starters, there is the core that acts like a heatsink. Then there is also the smaller profile. I don't know if you've seen the previous Mac Pros, but they were huge. Also your argument does not add up! Are you saying it is not great because the components are off the shelf? Going by that logic, all the modern cars have the same IC engine. The Mac Pro clearly has more capable hardware, why is that not enough? why does it have to be a magic chip?
        strictnein 10y ago
        My original statement was that the Mac Pro was a fancy computer case, nothing more. You state: > "For starters, there is the core that acts like a heatsink. Then there is also the smaller profile." Which is exactly my point. > "The Mac Pro clearly has more capable hardware, why is that not enough?" In what way? Seriously. You said it was "off the shelf" components and then it somehow has more capable hardware? How does that work? Because it has a unique cooling mechanism?

pier25 10y ago

The 2013 Mac pro was a very powerful Mac Mini with lots of terrible design choices. So many pros hated it and Apple hasn't bothered to upgrade it in 3 years. The Watch and Pencil are accessories, like the AirPods. Apple Music isn't that big of a deal.