> To say "If the percentage of people wrongly convicted is > 0% then we can never have a death penalty" is too idealistic. 1) That's how it is in many first-wo

> To say "If the percentage of people wrongly convicted is > 0% then we can never have a death penalty" is too idealistic. 1) That's how it is in many first-world countries, so it's obviously not too idealistic. 2) If you don't see the death penalty as a deterrent, what is that supposed pragmatic reason why it's needed (that makes absence of it idealistic)? That doesn't make sense.