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It had its "voted-for government toppled"? Not in any usual sense of the word. The elected members of the Ukranian parliament just kicked out the President and

by makomk 10y ago

It had its "voted-for government toppled"? Not in any usual sense of the word. The elected members of the Ukranian parliament just kicked out the President and a few of his buddies after they violently repressed protests caused by their actions. That seems a lot like democracy to me. Stepping in and annexing part of a country because your preferred candidate is no longer in power, on the other hand, is a huge affront to it - and the way that Russia sees the "parts of USSR" as their property regardless of what the inhabitants think is terrifying.

coldtea 10y ago
>The elected members of the Ukranian parliament just kicked out the President and a few of his buddies after they violently repressed protests caused by their actions. Sort of like Trump's elected republicans throwing out President Hillary and a few of her buddies, after weeks of protests by Tea Partiers who disagreed with what the actually elected government was doing and didn't want to wait 4 years for the next elections... >Stepping in and annexing part of a country because your preferred candidate is no longer in power, on the other hand, is a huge affront to it Better make it: because pro-fascists (literary: nazi sympathizers) are now in power after a coup, and they don't particularly like the Russian-ethnic population in their own country.
- makomk 10y ago
  More like the Republicans and Democrats throwing out President Hillary and a few of her buddies for having Tea Party protestors shot. Also, the evidence for the Ukranian leadership being pro-Nazi fascists who hate ethnic Russians looked pretty weak and more like Russian propaganda last time I checked.
rorykoehler 10y ago
I'm not a huge fan of Russian politics or US politics for that matter. That said when I read comments like yours I can only think of how you would feel if Russia had turned up in the US with war planes during the occupy demos?

by makomk 10y ago

coldtea 10y ago

>The elected members of the Ukranian parliament just kicked out the President and a few of his buddies after they violently repressed protests caused by their actions. Sort of like Trump's elected republicans throwing out President Hillary and a few of her buddies, after weeks of protests by Tea Partiers who disagreed with what the actually elected government was doing and didn't want to wait 4 years for the next elections... >Stepping in and annexing part of a country because your preferred candidate is no longer in power, on the other hand, is a huge affront to it Better make it: because pro-fascists (literary: nazi sympathizers) are now in power after a coup, and they don't particularly like the Russian-ethnic population in their own country.

makomk 10y ago
More like the Republicans and Democrats throwing out President Hillary and a few of her buddies for having Tea Party protestors shot. Also, the evidence for the Ukranian leadership being pro-Nazi fascists who hate ethnic Russians looked pretty weak and more like Russian propaganda last time I checked.

rorykoehler 10y ago

I'm not a huge fan of Russian politics or US politics for that matter. That said when I read comments like yours I can only think of how you would feel if Russia had turned up in the US with war planes during the occupy demos?