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I just want to remind everyone that the Clinton campaign has been proved at least twice (according to the Podesta e-mails) to plant stories in the press. Keep t

I just want to remind everyone that the Clinton campaign has been proved at least twice (according to the Podesta e-mails) to plant stories in the press. Keep that in mind while reading this: you don't know how much of it was written by the person whose name it comes under.

threeseed 10y ago
You do realize that everyone plants stories in the press. It's the corner stone of the PR industry.
- rahrahrah 10y ago
  The world isn't black and white. Everyone does it but some people do it to a larger extent than others. If this is too subtle an idea for you, I'm sorry for you.
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meowface 10y ago
Could you link those Podesta emails? And anyway, this article isn't really anti-Assange or pro-Clinton, as far as I can tell. It does seem to be anti-Russia, but not pro-US.
- Cyph0n 10y ago
  It seems implicitly anti-Assange to me.
  - idlewords 10y ago
    It eloquently conveys the fact that Assange is an asshole.
    - Cyph0n 10y ago
      I'm not the kind of guy who takes a single person's testimony as fact.
    - sn41 10y ago
      That may be so. But should we not refrain from shooting the messenger? The message he brings is important. About Assange's anti-Hillary bias: it may be a personal affair, but there is something also of objective interest. Of course, Trump is a monster/clown. And probably Russia does not want Clinton. However, I am sure Saudi Arabia prefers Clinton. How many wars are going to worsen? That's not very comforting to me.
    - rahrahrah 10y ago
      Compared to what Clinton is doing with the country, being an asshole seems minor. Or maybe not "with the country", because it's yet to be seem whether the results will be good or bad under her. But "with the democratic process". She's grabbing it by the pussy.
- Natsu 10y ago
  Not OP, but I can help. The dumps are huge, so there are probably lots of things I don't know about too. I suggest reading everything for yourself--can't take anyone's word for anything. Another fun hobby is if you look up various politically relevant Wikipedia articles and compare them before & after the election. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2175#efmAAGAAi https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2175#efmAAGAAi - This is the Wikileaks email describing a strategy (bird dogging) you'll hear more about later. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uMzYaO2syE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uMzYaO2syE - This video shows one Zulema Rodriguez who will appear in later videos around 17:36. She appears to be lying to the cops and blocking the road at the AZ protests. We'll see more of her later. https://beta.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?two_year_transaction_period=2016&recipient_name=ZULEMA+RODRIGUEZ&min_date=01%2F01%2F2015&max_date=12%2F31%2F2016 https://beta.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?two_year_transactio... - This is FEC data showing Zulema on the payroll of MoveOn.org. Note how the dates correlate with the previous item. This casts quite a bit of doubt on the story she told cops in the previous video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=5IuJGHuIkzY https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=5IuJGHuIkzY - The infamous O'Keefe video contains a description of bird dogging that's a lot less innocent than the one above. They discuss getting people to cause violence at the Trump protests. Zulema, in particular, mentions being both at the AZ protests (which we've corroborated above), and at another, more violent protest. https://i.sli.mg/dNBRek.png https://i.sli.mg/dNBRek.png - This image shows that the person seen in the AZ protest videos matches the person in the O'Keefe video. Note also that there was a fiasco over the ACORN videos some time ago from O'Keefe, causing some to suspect the video was edited. That said, it's interesting that the protests taken credit for were violent and that the information can be matched up with independent information and videos. Finally, though it's not related to Podesta at all, there's also been a recent attempt to frame Julian Assange for CP by an extra shady porn site: https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/58o29r/text_summary_toddclare_accuser_of_julian_assange/ https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/58o29r/text_summ... This part is just to show that weird stuff is going on. Note also that you can test the DKIM signatures on the emails yourself. There's too much crazy this election. I advise that you test things yourself, don't take anybody's word for anything. I don't claim to be infallible and things get weird as hell if you look very far into them. It doesn't help that a lawyer went on CNN to give a completely bogus claim that only journalists are allowed to look at Wikileaks. That claim is utterly false: https://popehat.com/2016/10/17/no-it-is-not-illegal-to-read-wikileaks/ https://popehat.com/2016/10/17/no-it-is-not-illegal-to-read-... That aside, you could get in trouble if you have a security clearance. But that's due to the agreements you make in getting a clearance, not due to any law that gives "journalists" special privileges the general public does not also enjoy. EDIT: One more thing. People are starting to spread totally fake Wikileaks images now on social media. I suggest adopting a links or GTFO approach to dealing with that.
- rahrahrah 10y ago
  The Podesta emails is thousands of files and are still being released every day by WikiLeaks. Anyone can search them here https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/ https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/ But it's so many that you really have to spend some time digging. Regarding my claim, I don't remember where I saw it, and a naive Google search didn't bring anything useful. But Natsu already did a more comprehensive job than I could, so follow him.

threeseed 10y ago

You do realize that everyone plants stories in the press. It's the corner stone of the PR industry.

rahrahrah 10y ago
The world isn't black and white. Everyone does it but some people do it to a larger extent than others. If this is too subtle an idea for you, I'm sorry for you.

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meowface 10y ago

Could you link those Podesta emails? And anyway, this article isn't really anti-Assange or pro-Clinton, as far as I can tell. It does seem to be anti-Russia, but not pro-US.

Cyph0n 10y ago
It seems implicitly anti-Assange to me.
- idlewords 10y ago
  It eloquently conveys the fact that Assange is an asshole.
  - Cyph0n 10y ago
    I'm not the kind of guy who takes a single person's testimony as fact.
  - sn41 10y ago
    That may be so. But should we not refrain from shooting the messenger? The message he brings is important. About Assange's anti-Hillary bias: it may be a personal affair, but there is something also of objective interest. Of course, Trump is a monster/clown. And probably Russia does not want Clinton. However, I am sure Saudi Arabia prefers Clinton. How many wars are going to worsen? That's not very comforting to me.
  - rahrahrah 10y ago
    Compared to what Clinton is doing with the country, being an asshole seems minor. Or maybe not "with the country", because it's yet to be seem whether the results will be good or bad under her. But "with the democratic process". She's grabbing it by the pussy.
Natsu 10y ago
Not OP, but I can help. The dumps are huge, so there are probably lots of things I don't know about too. I suggest reading everything for yourself--can't take anyone's word for anything. Another fun hobby is if you look up various politically relevant Wikipedia articles and compare them before & after the election. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2175#efmAAGAAi https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2175#efmAAGAAi - This is the Wikileaks email describing a strategy (bird dogging) you'll hear more about later. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uMzYaO2syE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uMzYaO2syE - This video shows one Zulema Rodriguez who will appear in later videos around 17:36. She appears to be lying to the cops and blocking the road at the AZ protests. We'll see more of her later. https://beta.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?two_year_transaction_period=2016&recipient_name=ZULEMA+RODRIGUEZ&min_date=01%2F01%2F2015&max_date=12%2F31%2F2016 https://beta.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?two_year_transactio... - This is FEC data showing Zulema on the payroll of MoveOn.org. Note how the dates correlate with the previous item. This casts quite a bit of doubt on the story she told cops in the previous video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=5IuJGHuIkzY https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=5IuJGHuIkzY - The infamous O'Keefe video contains a description of bird dogging that's a lot less innocent than the one above. They discuss getting people to cause violence at the Trump protests. Zulema, in particular, mentions being both at the AZ protests (which we've corroborated above), and at another, more violent protest. https://i.sli.mg/dNBRek.png https://i.sli.mg/dNBRek.png - This image shows that the person seen in the AZ protest videos matches the person in the O'Keefe video. Note also that there was a fiasco over the ACORN videos some time ago from O'Keefe, causing some to suspect the video was edited. That said, it's interesting that the protests taken credit for were violent and that the information can be matched up with independent information and videos. Finally, though it's not related to Podesta at all, there's also been a recent attempt to frame Julian Assange for CP by an extra shady porn site: https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/58o29r/text_summary_toddclare_accuser_of_julian_assange/ https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/58o29r/text_summ... This part is just to show that weird stuff is going on. Note also that you can test the DKIM signatures on the emails yourself. There's too much crazy this election. I advise that you test things yourself, don't take anybody's word for anything. I don't claim to be infallible and things get weird as hell if you look very far into them. It doesn't help that a lawyer went on CNN to give a completely bogus claim that only journalists are allowed to look at Wikileaks. That claim is utterly false: https://popehat.com/2016/10/17/no-it-is-not-illegal-to-read-wikileaks/ https://popehat.com/2016/10/17/no-it-is-not-illegal-to-read-... That aside, you could get in trouble if you have a security clearance. But that's due to the agreements you make in getting a clearance, not due to any law that gives "journalists" special privileges the general public does not also enjoy. EDIT: One more thing. People are starting to spread totally fake Wikileaks images now on social media. I suggest adopting a links or GTFO approach to dealing with that.
rahrahrah 10y ago
The Podesta emails is thousands of files and are still being released every day by WikiLeaks. Anyone can search them here https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/ https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/ But it's so many that you really have to spend some time digging. Regarding my claim, I don't remember where I saw it, and a naive Google search didn't bring anything useful. But Natsu already did a more comprehensive job than I could, so follow him.