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>almost as if he equates idea guys that try to hire developers as somehow "less than" him. I used "idea guys" in quotes because I'm referencing a specific type

>almost as if he equates idea guys that try to hire developers as somehow "less than" him. I used "idea guys" in quotes because I'm referencing a specific type of person who you may not be familiar with, but I'm sure many other people here are, especially in the freelancing world. If you read the post, you can spot the cliche. Having an idea, no matter how good it is (and believe me when I say I'm not one of those "ideas are worthless" guys) only gets you so far. At some point you need talented, skilled people to help execute on it. And it's far easier for the execution guys to crib an idea than it is for the idea guy to copy the execution skills. Basically, the "idea guys" like to place themselves at the top of the pyramid, and think everyone else owes them something.

davemel37 10y ago
Thanks for clarifying. I mistakenly assumed you were referring to "any non technical person with an idea (who can't build it himself)," ...as opposed to jerks who overvalue their contribution, thinking everyone else owes them something for just coming up with the idea. In general, I think the bias flows both ways. Some developers think ideas are worthless and that idea guys/business and marketing folks contribution is somehow worth significantly less than a developers contribution. Other "idea guys" think their idea gives them the keys to the kingdom. You really need both to succeed. In reality, there are lots of ways for both sides to make significant contributions to bringing ideas to life, outside of writing the actual code or ideation. It takes a village... I think we were both coming from opposite perspectives, but share similar views. I was "lashing out" against the guys who undervalue business guy contributions, and you were against the guys who undervalue the developers contribution... I just heard on a podcast that, "Every Mark Needs their Sheryl"

davemel37 10y ago

Thanks for clarifying. I mistakenly assumed you were referring to "any non technical person with an idea (who can't build it himself)," ...as opposed to jerks who overvalue their contribution, thinking everyone else owes them something for just coming up with the idea. In general, I think the bias flows both ways. Some developers think ideas are worthless and that idea guys/business and marketing folks contribution is somehow worth significantly less than a developers contribution. Other "idea guys" think their idea gives them the keys to the kingdom. You really need both to succeed. In reality, there are lots of ways for both sides to make significant contributions to bringing ideas to life, outside of writing the actual code or ideation. It takes a village... I think we were both coming from opposite perspectives, but share similar views. I was "lashing out" against the guys who undervalue business guy contributions, and you were against the guys who undervalue the developers contribution... I just heard on a podcast that, "Every Mark Needs their Sheryl"