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These criticisms, when phrased in the manner of the post ("HN is full of mean and rude people"), suggest by omission that there's some kind of internet forum Ni
by acabal 10y ago
These criticisms, when phrased in the manner of the post ("HN is full of mean and rude people"), suggest by omission that there's some kind of internet forum Nirvana out there where everyone's nice all the time and nobody every says mean things or is rude. ("HN is full of mean and rude people [... unlike place X, which is always great all the time]")
But the thing is, once a community reaches a mid-to-large size, certain kinds of people will always going to think it's full of jerks and trolls, and that its golden age has long passed--regardless of the community's age or actual composition.
I run one of the largest online writing communities online, Scribophile. We've been around going on 9 years and I personally pride myself on the reputation we've earned as being a friendly and supportive community. By and large people seem to agree. And yet every now and then we still get people complaining that Scrib members are out to get them, that everyone is mean, that Scrib's golden age has passed. (I started hearing that same golden age comment about 6 months in, by the way).
I think the truth is more like the faceless, voiceless, anonymous internet makes it really easy for people to both a) be jerks, and b) misinterpret harmless posts as people being jerks. I think this phenomenon happens in every mid-to-large sized community, ever. And I don't think it's really helpful to criticize any community of that size as having nothing but mean people, or trending towards meanness.
- zodiac 10y agoUh, did you read his second paragraph? > And yet, I haven’t found a public internet forum with better technical commentary.
- lstamour 10y agoI don't think they're mutually exclusive opinions. HN could be seen as mean or rude just as it can be technically correct -- and sometimes at the same time. The original post also acknowledges that there's been an effort to reduce negative comments in the past few years.
- zodiac 10y agoI read danluu's first two paragraphs as making the argument that "comments on HN are bad, but better than comments on any other online community", instead of as trying to distinguish between meanness and technical correctness.
- foxfired 10y agoI was looking for a writing community for so long. Thank you for pointing me to Scribophile :)