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> Anti-white racism. It's identical to the antisemitism of the far right in the 30s and 40s, except it is with whites. Wow, I officially have a new "worst-comm

by veddox 10y ago

> Anti-white racism. It's identical to the antisemitism of the far right in the 30s and 40s, except it is with whites. Wow, I officially have a new "worst-comment-seen-on-HN". Sir, have you ever experienced anything close to racism? And do you have any idea what antisemitism in the 30s and 40s actually was like? I am a young white male who has spent several years living abroad in the Third World. And yes, I have experienced some measure of "anti-white racism". That is to say, I am used to being publicly jeered at, being blamed for the poverty of the country I lived in (not entirely without reason - countries inhabited mainly by whites have caused many, many problems for the developing world), being ripped off and having to live with the danger of being physically attacked. All because my skin was another colour. But you know what? I am also a German, and when I walk through the streets of my home town I often walk past "stumbling stones" - small brass cobbles set into the ground to commemorate a Jewish family who once lived in that house beside the road. The names on these cobbles once belonged to real people, people I might have been friends with if I had ever known them, and what they suffer does not in any way compare to what I have experienced. They were not just jeered at and ripped off on the market. They were excluded from society in a way I never was. They were branded as subhumans, they had their property confiscated, they were attacked and humiliated. And then they were herded up like cattle and sent off to be killed in one of the most brutal, most efficient killing industries ever invented by man. I love my second home country, for despite the "racism" that I have experienced there (and you get used to it) I have also found true friends there and so much more that is incredibly positive - I am proud of this country and its achievements. They also loved their country; many of them even fought in a war for it. But their country thanked them by ostracizing them, and then putting them to death. So please, the next time when you want to compare something to the antisemitism of the 30s and 40s, think again before you post. Nothing in this world is identical to that. Very, very few things come close. Anti-white racism is related, but please put it into its proper perspective. Failure to do so untruthfully exaggerates one issue and is grossly disrespectful to the victims of what remains one of the greatest disasters of mankind.

internaut 10y ago
It's a single sentence and you read things into it I was not quite thinking of. Obviously the death camps are not presently open for business. My original post (which I shortened to that) explained my thoughts more clearly but I opted for brevity and in the name of brevity sometimes... I was thinking of two things. 1. The rise of antisemitism in the early 20th century, and 2. An accompanying diabolism, the antisemitic Jews. In the 30s there were self hating Jews who aided the Nazis in destroying their neighbors. Notably George Soros was one of those, at the age of 14 he was helping his father help the Nazis, and what is more, he stated that it was just an exhilarating experience! It is all in the public record, he doesn't deny it. I believe the far left, modern leftist activists are very similar to George Soros. They are like the self hating Jews who acted as NSDAP collaborators, except this time it is white people instead. I see white people advocating hate against whites on a fairly regular basis, especially at the universities. This is something that concerns me because before now rightists have been put into gulags/prison camps/re-education centres/killing fields in Communist countries. There do exist groups of people who advocate white genocide, in South Africa for example. Unlike the mockery of c_c_c, the main worry of the right in Europe and the US is not about being subject to oppression by minority groups, it is worry about oppression by their own people who appear enthused by a modern version of Communism they call social justice which to a 1st approximation appears to be a mix of Christianity (original sin) and Marxism (equality). We see in Germany they are importing millions of foreign peoples and we don't believe in altruism, we believe they are to be a weapon against the right and/or to achieve an ulterior motive. The volumes are so large they are replacing their own people. In France that process is so far advanced that, well, you can see for yourself. You can't tell me there's something normal going on in that country. Population replacement, without the consent of the people, this is very very wrong, actually the correct term is genocide. Presently we are in the preliminary stages strategists call 'Preparation'. That is why the far right is rising fast in Europe. People are seeing that something horribly wrong is happening without their consent and they're getting ready to fight back. That is what Trump and Brexit are about, but that is just the beginning of what will be a difficult struggle to nip this new communism in the bud. > Sir, have you ever experienced anything close to racism? And do you have any idea what antisemitism in the 30s and 40s actually was like? Not sure if this was rhetorical but I'll answer it anyway. Yes to the first. I've been attacked twice, both times by black men, in two different EU countries. I'll elaborate more if you want me to. That does colour my impression of migrants somewhat, and I also believe it to be much more common than the statistics relate because the police told me there was no point in filing a report each time. On a positive note I work with a black migrant who has acclimated perfectly well into the country and you couldn't wish for a more reasonable person. So I think there are good people and bad people, but I no longer believe they are evenly distributed if that makes any sense to you. Some groups of people really do have a horrible culture, it isn't a random distribution. In the case of the Jewish experience, only by secondhand accounts, like yourself. I've watched the Nazis: A warning from history, a documentary series by the BBC, which was enlightening and read a number of books around the subject. I think I understand how it happens, and what is more, I believe the pre-War history is almost entirely neglected in the mainstream media. The whole thing was entirely predictable in advance, just like the conflict that is likely to arise in Europe in the coming years.
- veddox 10y ago
  > It's a single sentence and you read things into it I was not quite thinking of. Quite possible. However, if you insist on bringing up a Nazi comparison in a three sentence comment, it can be hard not to be misunderstood...

by veddox 10y ago

internaut 10y ago

It's a single sentence and you read things into it I was not quite thinking of. Obviously the death camps are not presently open for business. My original post (which I shortened to that) explained my thoughts more clearly but I opted for brevity and in the name of brevity sometimes... I was thinking of two things. 1. The rise of antisemitism in the early 20th century, and 2. An accompanying diabolism, the antisemitic Jews. In the 30s there were self hating Jews who aided the Nazis in destroying their neighbors. Notably George Soros was one of those, at the age of 14 he was helping his father help the Nazis, and what is more, he stated that it was just an exhilarating experience! It is all in the public record, he doesn't deny it. I believe the far left, modern leftist activists are very similar to George Soros. They are like the self hating Jews who acted as NSDAP collaborators, except this time it is white people instead. I see white people advocating hate against whites on a fairly regular basis, especially at the universities. This is something that concerns me because before now rightists have been put into gulags/prison camps/re-education centres/killing fields in Communist countries. There do exist groups of people who advocate white genocide, in South Africa for example. Unlike the mockery of c_c_c, the main worry of the right in Europe and the US is not about being subject to oppression by minority groups, it is worry about oppression by their own people who appear enthused by a modern version of Communism they call social justice which to a 1st approximation appears to be a mix of Christianity (original sin) and Marxism (equality). We see in Germany they are importing millions of foreign peoples and we don't believe in altruism, we believe they are to be a weapon against the right and/or to achieve an ulterior motive. The volumes are so large they are replacing their own people. In France that process is so far advanced that, well, you can see for yourself. You can't tell me there's something normal going on in that country. Population replacement, without the consent of the people, this is very very wrong, actually the correct term is genocide. Presently we are in the preliminary stages strategists call 'Preparation'. That is why the far right is rising fast in Europe. People are seeing that something horribly wrong is happening without their consent and they're getting ready to fight back. That is what Trump and Brexit are about, but that is just the beginning of what will be a difficult struggle to nip this new communism in the bud. > Sir, have you ever experienced anything close to racism? And do you have any idea what antisemitism in the 30s and 40s actually was like? Not sure if this was rhetorical but I'll answer it anyway. Yes to the first. I've been attacked twice, both times by black men, in two different EU countries. I'll elaborate more if you want me to. That does colour my impression of migrants somewhat, and I also believe it to be much more common than the statistics relate because the police told me there was no point in filing a report each time. On a positive note I work with a black migrant who has acclimated perfectly well into the country and you couldn't wish for a more reasonable person. So I think there are good people and bad people, but I no longer believe they are evenly distributed if that makes any sense to you. Some groups of people really do have a horrible culture, it isn't a random distribution. In the case of the Jewish experience, only by secondhand accounts, like yourself. I've watched the Nazis: A warning from history, a documentary series by the BBC, which was enlightening and read a number of books around the subject. I think I understand how it happens, and what is more, I believe the pre-War history is almost entirely neglected in the mainstream media. The whole thing was entirely predictable in advance, just like the conflict that is likely to arise in Europe in the coming years.

veddox 10y ago
> It's a single sentence and you read things into it I was not quite thinking of. Quite possible. However, if you insist on bringing up a Nazi comparison in a three sentence comment, it can be hard not to be misunderstood...