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Yes, using any tool or language that came out after the commenter started programming is "hipster". And you see a lot of xkcd 927 and "I can't help thinking ef

Yes, using any tool or language that came out after the commenter started programming is "hipster". And you see a lot of xkcd 927 and "I can't help thinking effort would have been better spent on an existing project" when someone writes any program of any type where other examples exist.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago
I only post a 927 when there are >6 different standards in the field, and there's no way a new one will catch on. As for the effort better spent posts, those are awful. Never post those. Instead post about how great emacs is compared to vim: you're more likely to spawn useful discussion.
- Semiapies 10y ago
  And if you post the xkcd link to a discussion about a piece of software and not a new standard for which many already exist, (and I see that post,) I will proudly downvote you no matter how many examples exist. Just be glad I don't have the magic ability to force anyone to use QED to program their next project in Fortran on a CTSS box.
  - qwertyuiop924 10y ago
    Yeah, just don't post 927 on software: that's dumb. Note I said when a new one won't catch on, or is unlikely to do so, particularly of it doesn't have any significant benefits over what's already there.
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- 50CNT 10y ago
  I think that it's interesting that there is an etiquette developing on when which XKCD is appropriate.
  - qwertyuiop924 10y ago
    XKCD is always appropriate when it's relevant, pretty much. There's only etiquette for 927.
  - Semiapies 10y ago
    Well, here. It's still popular on Reddit to be the first to post an "obligatory" link to a vaguely relevant xkcd. Here, that usually gets downvoted fast.
    - qwertyuiop924 10y ago
      I do it sometimes, but only if the XKCD is actually highly relevant. As a result, I've actually never gotten downed for it.
- kuschku 10y ago
  > As for the effort better spent posts, those are awful. Never post those. Except, the issue is when there’s already dozens of standards in the field, and someone decides to make yet another one, and publish factually wrong articles about existing standards to get an advantage.
coldtea 10y ago
>Yes, using any tool or language that came out after the commenter started programming is "hipster". I see this a lot, and I don't think it's a valid criticism of the issue. It assumes either that all periods in IT are equally good, or that there's monotonic progress (both of which are wrong), and that there's no such thing as a fad, so anybody pointing one is clearly a "get off my lawn" person. I'm with Alan Kay on this: computer science is a pop culture.
- Semiapies 10y ago
  It's not a "criticism" of an "issue", it's a description of a behavior that may in some cases and out of some mouths have a point, but is not necessarily rooted in anything worthwhile. The behavior is frequently ad hominem in use and often seems to express insecurity of some form, mixed with the conservative bias towards freaking out about flaws in new things while brushing them off in existing things.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago

I only post a 927 when there are >6 different standards in the field, and there's no way a new one will catch on. As for the effort better spent posts, those are awful. Never post those. Instead post about how great emacs is compared to vim: you're more likely to spawn useful discussion.

Semiapies 10y ago
And if you post the xkcd link to a discussion about a piece of software and not a new standard for which many already exist, (and I see that post,) I will proudly downvote you no matter how many examples exist. Just be glad I don't have the magic ability to force anyone to use QED to program their next project in Fortran on a CTSS box.
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  Yeah, just don't post 927 on software: that's dumb. Note I said when a new one won't catch on, or is unlikely to do so, particularly of it doesn't have any significant benefits over what's already there.
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50CNT 10y ago
I think that it's interesting that there is an etiquette developing on when which XKCD is appropriate.
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  XKCD is always appropriate when it's relevant, pretty much. There's only etiquette for 927.
- Semiapies 10y ago
  Well, here. It's still popular on Reddit to be the first to post an "obligatory" link to a vaguely relevant xkcd. Here, that usually gets downvoted fast.
  - qwertyuiop924 10y ago
    I do it sometimes, but only if the XKCD is actually highly relevant. As a result, I've actually never gotten downed for it.
kuschku 10y ago
> As for the effort better spent posts, those are awful. Never post those. Except, the issue is when there’s already dozens of standards in the field, and someone decides to make yet another one, and publish factually wrong articles about existing standards to get an advantage.

coldtea 10y ago

>Yes, using any tool or language that came out after the commenter started programming is "hipster". I see this a lot, and I don't think it's a valid criticism of the issue. It assumes either that all periods in IT are equally good, or that there's monotonic progress (both of which are wrong), and that there's no such thing as a fad, so anybody pointing one is clearly a "get off my lawn" person. I'm with Alan Kay on this: computer science is a pop culture.

Semiapies 10y ago
It's not a "criticism" of an "issue", it's a description of a behavior that may in some cases and out of some mouths have a point, but is not necessarily rooted in anything worthwhile. The behavior is frequently ad hominem in use and often seems to express insecurity of some form, mixed with the conservative bias towards freaking out about flaws in new things while brushing them off in existing things.