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This is very naive. If working in many countries and for many entities all over the world though me anything, it's that: - people are tracked by everyone. Comp

This is very naive. If working in many countries and for many entities all over the world though me anything, it's that: - people are tracked by everyone. Companies. State agencies. Other people. - the database contains much more data than you think it does. And there are more data base than you think, also most of them are not connected to each others. But people in charge are. - the data can be exploited in much more ways than you think it can. - the law is broken is many more ways than you think it is. And as often as it's possible when not getting caught. - the human in charge bypass everything they can, with every way they have, and help each others to do saw across entities. - even the human that are not willing to do any of these are not necessarily competent enough to prevent abuses. The only we don't suffer too much about it is: - you can't see the many things in your life that are influenced by it because it's indirect and untold. - the sheer mass of it make it hard for the human to handle everything so only 5% of the real potential is actually in used. Wait for the AI to step in... - those are life threatening most of the time. But remember the table of power and freedom always turned during the history of humanity. Our current situation is NOT permanent. Luckily most people I've met related to the data collection are not evil enough, and don't have enough greed to be a threat. Even the ones that are are usually not competent enough to become the next big brother. But the potential is here nevertheless. TL;DR: the amount of data is huge. It can be used in scary ways. It is abused on a daily basis, but the consequences are not too insufferable yet.

xvilka 10y ago
Good point. I believe also this will become a new 'standard' in most countries across the globe in this century. And this order is inevitable - the only hope that the humanity will move on, after living a few generations under this order. The consequences are too invisible for people masses that it's impossible to resist it now.
paganel 10y ago
> And there are more data base than you think, also most of them are not connected to each others. I've thought about this issue a lot (I'm a data-herding obsessed guy myself), and I think that this is one of our last chances at decent privacy, I mean, the fact that there are still many unconnected databases containing our data instead of one big blob where search for relevant info would be much easier. I'm still hoping that enough things get lost in "translation" between these several databases so that the info becomes less intrusive, and that some of the databases will eventually become "deprecated" i.e. data will become stalled. > It is abused on a daily basis, but the consequences are not too insufferable yet. Just the other day I found out about a guy whose credit application had been rejected by the bank because he had gotten a police ticket a couple of years ago for "public disturbance" (some neighbors called the cops when he was throwing a party at his house). What was crazy is that the matter hadn't gone through any legal court, it was just saved as a ticket stored in the police's database and probably the local tax-office's DB (the police tickets are collected by the local tax office). I can't really fathom how a private entity (the bank) got hold of that information. (I live in Eastern Europe, if it matters)

xvilka 10y ago

Good point. I believe also this will become a new 'standard' in most countries across the globe in this century. And this order is inevitable - the only hope that the humanity will move on, after living a few generations under this order. The consequences are too invisible for people masses that it's impossible to resist it now.

paganel 10y ago

> And there are more data base than you think, also most of them are not connected to each others. I've thought about this issue a lot (I'm a data-herding obsessed guy myself), and I think that this is one of our last chances at decent privacy, I mean, the fact that there are still many unconnected databases containing our data instead of one big blob where search for relevant info would be much easier. I'm still hoping that enough things get lost in "translation" between these several databases so that the info becomes less intrusive, and that some of the databases will eventually become "deprecated" i.e. data will become stalled. > It is abused on a daily basis, but the consequences are not too insufferable yet. Just the other day I found out about a guy whose credit application had been rejected by the bank because he had gotten a police ticket a couple of years ago for "public disturbance" (some neighbors called the cops when he was throwing a party at his house). What was crazy is that the matter hadn't gone through any legal court, it was just saved as a ticket stored in the police's database and probably the local tax-office's DB (the police tickets are collected by the local tax office). I can't really fathom how a private entity (the bank) got hold of that information. (I live in Eastern Europe, if it matters)