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I just finished watching the Nosedive (Season 3, episode 1) from Black Mirror on Netflix, it shows a similar system. Unlike other Black Mirror episodes its quit

I just finished watching the Nosedive (Season 3, episode 1) from Black Mirror on Netflix, it shows a similar system. Unlike other Black Mirror episodes its quite well balanced. I would highly highly recommend watching it.

anexprogrammer 10y ago
I watched it last night and was struck by how much impact had been lost by Netflix transition. OK they were clearly going for humour, but even with bigger production, and good acting the longer running time diluted it so much. We didn't need the star rating explained every 2 mins for the first 20. Though I think it was that one that's based on a Charlie Brooker story, rather than written by. I actually paused after to decide if I was going to bother with the rest at all. 2nd episode (as far as I've got) was much better.
- aerovistae 10y ago
  I just finished the third and have liked all three but agree with you completely. The original runs packed far more punch than what I've seen so far.
  - aerovistae 10y ago
    Strike that, the fourth episode is amazing and as good as any made previously.
- sbd01 10y ago
  It started like that, but I quite liked San Junipero and Hated in the Nation. The latter was on a similar par to White Christmas, in my opinion.
- Udik 10y ago
  My first impression and suspicion is that it has been Americanised. British humour tends to be more grating and grotesque than what's considered acceptable in the US, and the outlook is bleaker. So far I've watched the first three episodes. The first even has some sort of happy ending. The second episode looks just like a bleak prequel to Inception, rather predictable. The third is maybe the most faithful to the original spirit. There seems to to be a slow transition from American to British in the three episodes, so curious to watch the others.
sogen 10y ago
Exactly. I give you 5
- kristianov 10y ago
  2. Wasn't a meaningful encounter.
  - sogen 10y ago
    :D Ha!
postscapes1 10y ago
Same here, they are doing some very interesting design fiction stuff on this show.... Not always recommend to watch before bed though :)
- matthewcford 10y ago
  watched the first three episodes - still can't sleep (its 4am).
fratlas 10y ago
Came here to mention exactly this. The 1st world isn't far off something similar (instagram/twitter followers represents power and popularity)
alextheparrot 10y ago
After finishing the season today, they've really stepped up their game, it seems, from the previous seasons.
oldmanjay 10y ago
It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia used this concept as a plotline, and managed to treat it with more subtlety. Granted, it's a comedy, so the tone was wildly different.
- rsmoz 10y ago
  Which episode?
  - oldmanjay 10y ago
    The Gang Group Dates
fvargas 10y ago
Just the title of this post reminds me of the anime Psycho-Pass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho-Pass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho-Pass
- snuxoll 10y ago
  First thing that comes to mind for me whenever Sesame Credit is brought up.
fucking_tragedy 10y ago
My favorite aspect of this episode is that the main character's drastic decline in quality and ease of life that coincided with her declining rating are the exact same experiences someone with poor credit or a rap sheet would experience right this second. The rating systems, lists and records we use as a metric for access and worth are draconian as it is. Crowd sourcing it just makes it glaringly obvious with a tight feedback loop.
rosser 10y ago
I just finished watching it myself, after having seen it mentioned in your comment. I found it profoundly heavy-handed, and, unlike pretty much every other episode of the series I've seen so far, I didn't enjoy it at all.
PaulRobinson 10y ago
I watched the first 3 episodes of S3 last night, and as soon as I saw the headline for this story, I thought of Nosedive. Watching Nosedive, I thought how close to it we were already, it's just that we're measuring people in terms of Followers or Likes. This path started I think when we prioritised Google Analytics numbers over the positive effects you create within your audience: clicks, traffic, unique visitors all seem to count more in 2016 than loyalty and shared values that dominated publishing for the prior 100 years or more. In the age of "personal brand" it makes sense to me that we're going to end up with "personal metrics" and we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg. At the end of Nosedive I decided if that was the future of my society, I'd stay being me and suffer the consequences. I'd rather be happy in my own skin that be popular, and if I lived in a society that turned popularity into a measure of personal worth, I'd quite happy to be a dissident within it.
lagadu 10y ago
I really disliked this season. It's too sanitized, not anywhere as visceral or cringe-inducing as the previous ones. Hell the first episode actually had a happy ending instead of a deeply depressing one; the endings in Black Mirror always had that appeal in that they always uneeringly hammered in that there's no escaping, there are no happy endings and it can only get worse. It just felt too "plasticky", that conclusions about the worlds displayed were being forced on me, instead of giving some room for thought.
- threepipeproblm 10y ago
  It was my favorite season. I probably won't watch Episodes 1 or 6 again, but I thought the middle ones were consistently great. The one with "roaches" I seemed like it had excellent warning value as we enter the world of augmented reality. Not trying to start an argument over matters of taste, just interesting to see how opinions differ! It does seem like in season 3 -- aside from the episode everyone is talking about in relevant to this thread -- they run with more of the "sci fi premise" approach, as opposed to making you feel like this is a just around the corner, as some of the first seasons did.

anexprogrammer 10y ago

I watched it last night and was struck by how much impact had been lost by Netflix transition. OK they were clearly going for humour, but even with bigger production, and good acting the longer running time diluted it so much. We didn't need the star rating explained every 2 mins for the first 20. Though I think it was that one that's based on a Charlie Brooker story, rather than written by. I actually paused after to decide if I was going to bother with the rest at all. 2nd episode (as far as I've got) was much better.

aerovistae 10y ago
I just finished the third and have liked all three but agree with you completely. The original runs packed far more punch than what I've seen so far.
- aerovistae 10y ago
  Strike that, the fourth episode is amazing and as good as any made previously.
sbd01 10y ago
It started like that, but I quite liked San Junipero and Hated in the Nation. The latter was on a similar par to White Christmas, in my opinion.
Udik 10y ago
My first impression and suspicion is that it has been Americanised. British humour tends to be more grating and grotesque than what's considered acceptable in the US, and the outlook is bleaker. So far I've watched the first three episodes. The first even has some sort of happy ending. The second episode looks just like a bleak prequel to Inception, rather predictable. The third is maybe the most faithful to the original spirit. There seems to to be a slow transition from American to British in the three episodes, so curious to watch the others.

sogen 10y ago

Exactly. I give you 5

kristianov 10y ago
2. Wasn't a meaningful encounter.
- sogen 10y ago
  :D Ha!

postscapes1 10y ago

Same here, they are doing some very interesting design fiction stuff on this show.... Not always recommend to watch before bed though :)

matthewcford 10y ago
watched the first three episodes - still can't sleep (its 4am).

fratlas 10y ago

Came here to mention exactly this. The 1st world isn't far off something similar (instagram/twitter followers represents power and popularity)

alextheparrot 10y ago

After finishing the season today, they've really stepped up their game, it seems, from the previous seasons.

oldmanjay 10y ago

It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia used this concept as a plotline, and managed to treat it with more subtlety. Granted, it's a comedy, so the tone was wildly different.

rsmoz 10y ago
Which episode?
- oldmanjay 10y ago
  The Gang Group Dates

fvargas 10y ago

Just the title of this post reminds me of the anime Psycho-Pass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho-Pass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho-Pass

snuxoll 10y ago
First thing that comes to mind for me whenever Sesame Credit is brought up.

fucking_tragedy 10y ago

My favorite aspect of this episode is that the main character's drastic decline in quality and ease of life that coincided with her declining rating are the exact same experiences someone with poor credit or a rap sheet would experience right this second. The rating systems, lists and records we use as a metric for access and worth are draconian as it is. Crowd sourcing it just makes it glaringly obvious with a tight feedback loop.

rosser 10y ago

I just finished watching it myself, after having seen it mentioned in your comment. I found it profoundly heavy-handed, and, unlike pretty much every other episode of the series I've seen so far, I didn't enjoy it at all.

PaulRobinson 10y ago

I watched the first 3 episodes of S3 last night, and as soon as I saw the headline for this story, I thought of Nosedive. Watching Nosedive, I thought how close to it we were already, it's just that we're measuring people in terms of Followers or Likes. This path started I think when we prioritised Google Analytics numbers over the positive effects you create within your audience: clicks, traffic, unique visitors all seem to count more in 2016 than loyalty and shared values that dominated publishing for the prior 100 years or more. In the age of "personal brand" it makes sense to me that we're going to end up with "personal metrics" and we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg. At the end of Nosedive I decided if that was the future of my society, I'd stay being me and suffer the consequences. I'd rather be happy in my own skin that be popular, and if I lived in a society that turned popularity into a measure of personal worth, I'd quite happy to be a dissident within it.

lagadu 10y ago

I really disliked this season. It's too sanitized, not anywhere as visceral or cringe-inducing as the previous ones. Hell the first episode actually had a happy ending instead of a deeply depressing one; the endings in Black Mirror always had that appeal in that they always uneeringly hammered in that there's no escaping, there are no happy endings and it can only get worse. It just felt too "plasticky", that conclusions about the worlds displayed were being forced on me, instead of giving some room for thought.

threepipeproblm 10y ago
It was my favorite season. I probably won't watch Episodes 1 or 6 again, but I thought the middle ones were consistently great. The one with "roaches" I seemed like it had excellent warning value as we enter the world of augmented reality. Not trying to start an argument over matters of taste, just interesting to see how opinions differ! It does seem like in season 3 -- aside from the episode everyone is talking about in relevant to this thread -- they run with more of the "sci fi premise" approach, as opposed to making you feel like this is a just around the corner, as some of the first seasons did.