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This is pretty silly. No casinos or card rooms let you have a phone/device at the table. That aside, you need to have a special marked deck. People have tried
by manav 10y ago
This is pretty silly. No casinos or card rooms let you have a phone/device at the table.
That aside, you need to have a special marked deck. People have tried something similar with flourescent ink and special glasses. I think professional shuffling devices have some kind of built in blacklight check now for this. IR is a bit better since its harder to detect without a camera. You would still need to have a tub of ink and manually mark the cards though.
You'd basically need to have the dealer in on it, and if that is the case you don't really need the device at all.
A more interesting method from a few decades ago that actually worked was "edge sorting". Because of printing/cutting one could determine certain cards. http://deadspin.com/how-phil-ivey-beat-or-maybe-cheated-a-casino-for-mill-1562993963 http://deadspin.com/how-phil-ivey-beat-or-maybe-cheated-a-ca...
- empath75 10y agoIt works with a camera in a car key.
- albedoa 10y agoThis is pretty silly. No casinos or card rooms let you have a phone/device at the table. I've played all over the US, and while I'm sure there exists a room that bans phones at a cash table, I can't name one.
- manav 10y agoI'd say they are more lax now with using your phone, but I doubt they would let you set your phone ON the actual table next to the cards during a hand.
- albedoa 10y agoI'm talking strictly cash games here. (I know tournaments are different.) Most rooms allow your phone to be on the rail or in a cup holder, immediately next to your cards but not on the felt itself.
- jdietrich 10y ago> No casinos or card rooms let you have a phone/device at the table. That's simply not true. I'm not aware of a single cardroom that currently prohibits cellphones - indeed, several casinos have installed USB chargers in their gaming tables for customer use. Using an electronic device during a hand is prohibited, but this is primarily a matter of etiquette to speed up play. These devices pose no threat to the integrity of games at casino cardrooms. Their surveillance systems are more than capable of detecting an unusual IR emitter. Their dealers are more than capable of preventing deck switches and detecting suspicious card handling. These devices only pose a serious threat to games played in unlicensed venues. http://www.anteupmagazine.com/news/cell-phones-at-the-poker-table-are-here-to-stay.htm http://www.anteupmagazine.com/news/cell-phones-at-the-poker-... https://www.sitncharge.com/ https://www.sitncharge.com/
- manav 10y agoI meant "on the table" as in on the felt. That's generally the rule I've seen at nicer cardrooms. But yes I agree nothing like this would ever work in a casino.
- jawngee 10y ago> No casinos or card rooms let you have > a phone/device at the table. This isn't true at all. I can't think of one casino, except for one in Amsterdam, where I couldn't have a phone at the table. http://www.anteupmagazine.com/nevada/news/cell-phones-at-the-poker-table-are-here-to-stay.htm http://www.anteupmagazine.com/nevada/news/cell-phones-at-the... Obviously this device wouldn't work in a casino though, so it's kind of a moot point.
- mmgutz 10y agodepends on the card room still, you need specially made decks that the scanner can read. no casinos have that
- joosters 10y agoThis is pretty silly. Someone has gone to extreme lengths to build these things and people pay lots of money for them. And yet your first instinct is to declare it useless. When you can't see the point of something, maybe it is because you are cleverer than all the other fools, or maybe it is because you don't know as much as you think you do. It is very telling when people automatically assume they are the smartest.
- graffitici 10y agoThe "Chesterton's fence" experiment comes to mind.. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chesterton%27s_fence https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chesterton%27s_fen...
- manav 10y agoWe're talking about a system for people trying to cheat card games. It's not novel or technically sophisticated. This would never work in a casino/card room. The people who buy this would do so with the intention of scamming their small group/card game. Yes it is silly.
- dsmithatx 10y agoPoker is players taking money from players. The house gets the rake whether cheating is involved. They are so worried about people cheating black jack and rigging machines I doubt they really spend a whole lot of attention if Customer A just robbed Customer B when the house gets their cut either way. There is not much ROI for them to care unless the cheaters are so active they run off customers.