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1. You're giving young people opportunity for learning and experience, both in a profession, and in working with others. 2. You're helping establish a new gene

by eplanit 17y ago

1. You're giving young people opportunity for learning and experience, both in a profession, and in working with others. 2. You're helping establish a new generation of relevant workers by offering them meaningful experiences instead of typical summertime opportunities such as burger-flipping or lawn-mowing. Your internship is about their future, a typical summertime job is nothing more than "spending money" 3. You're allowing yourself to fully evaluate a potential employee's abilities. My career began with an internship (over 20 years ago), which I always value as having been a springboard for my career.

mcantor 17y ago
Was your internship paid or unpaid? Where did you stay while you were interning? How were your living expenses paid for?
- eplanit 17y ago
  Unpaid, at home, and with my own money. I didn't treat the internship as a career. It was a part of my education, and I was happy to invest the time and effort. I learned an enormous amount, and it benefits me to this day.
  - mcantor 17y ago
    Where'd you get the money to live on while you were doing your unpaid internship? What I'm getting at here is that part of the point of the article was that unpaid internships favor people who come from more privileged backgrounds.
    - eplanit 17y ago
      Yes, for those whole three months I fended for myself with my savings. Your interpretation seems as though something is being imposed on someone, and some social injustice is being committed. Unpaid internships have advantage for the employer, and for the intern. That there are some people who can afford to invest their time and effort more so than others is not the fault of the employer, or of the intern who has the means. Nobody in this being is treated favorably, and nobody is being denied. Life isn't inherently equal and fair. People with 'advantage' (meaning wherewithal and means) and will use it, and should.
yesimahuman 17y ago
In some professions it seems the only way to get experience is to do "mandatory volunteering" (i.e. an unpaid job where you have set hours and can be fired, but you aren't an intern). Perhaps not in CS but in psychology and others.
pw0ncakes 17y ago
Right, and this should still exist, but the people should get paid for the work they do. An internship is an investment in peoples' careers so as to encourage them to have a favorable opinion of you, and maybe work for you. As it's a short-term money-loser by design, there's no reason it shouldn't pay at least a pittance.
- eplanit 17y ago
  But they're not about developing a positive opinion of the company in the potential employee's minds. Yes, a company will do that because a company always wants to paint itself positively -- but from their perspective the purpose of internships is to filter through and prove talent. The company isn't investing (after all, they're not paying). 'tis the intern investing in his or her own career -- as it should be! The company is more concerned with if _they_ like _you_. The reward for the intern is experience, and maybe a future position.

by eplanit 17y ago

mcantor 17y ago

Was your internship paid or unpaid? Where did you stay while you were interning? How were your living expenses paid for?

eplanit 17y ago
Unpaid, at home, and with my own money. I didn't treat the internship as a career. It was a part of my education, and I was happy to invest the time and effort. I learned an enormous amount, and it benefits me to this day.
- mcantor 17y ago
  Where'd you get the money to live on while you were doing your unpaid internship? What I'm getting at here is that part of the point of the article was that unpaid internships favor people who come from more privileged backgrounds.
  - eplanit 17y ago
    Yes, for those whole three months I fended for myself with my savings. Your interpretation seems as though something is being imposed on someone, and some social injustice is being committed. Unpaid internships have advantage for the employer, and for the intern. That there are some people who can afford to invest their time and effort more so than others is not the fault of the employer, or of the intern who has the means. Nobody in this being is treated favorably, and nobody is being denied. Life isn't inherently equal and fair. People with 'advantage' (meaning wherewithal and means) and will use it, and should.

yesimahuman 17y ago

In some professions it seems the only way to get experience is to do "mandatory volunteering" (i.e. an unpaid job where you have set hours and can be fired, but you aren't an intern). Perhaps not in CS but in psychology and others.

pw0ncakes 17y ago

Right, and this should still exist, but the people should get paid for the work they do. An internship is an investment in peoples' careers so as to encourage them to have a favorable opinion of you, and maybe work for you. As it's a short-term money-loser by design, there's no reason it shouldn't pay at least a pittance.

eplanit 17y ago
But they're not about developing a positive opinion of the company in the potential employee's minds. Yes, a company will do that because a company always wants to paint itself positively -- but from their perspective the purpose of internships is to filter through and prove talent. The company isn't investing (after all, they're not paying). 'tis the intern investing in his or her own career -- as it should be! The company is more concerned with if _they_ like _you_. The reward for the intern is experience, and maybe a future position.