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Here's the thing. -- police violence is unambiguously a racial issue [0] -- "white lives matter" contains implicit parallelism to "black lives matter" and can

Here's the thing. -- police violence is unambiguously a racial issue [0] -- "white lives matter" contains implicit parallelism to "black lives matter" and cannot help but be viewed as responding to BLM. Its use in general has been to deny the racial aspects of police violence. -- if you wish to address police violence for all groups, then use language which does not function to deny or derail other movements. Choose a new catch phrase. BLM is necessary to address the particularly black aspects of police violence, and trying to turn it into a race-blind movement is to destroy a core part of the problems it is trying to address. Make a movement which is interested in the general problem of police violence, but recognize that you're not addressing the same types of problems as a movement like BLM and don't try to stop what BLM is doing. The claim that <a movement which addresses the particularly black aspects of police violence is alienating> is a condemnation of non-black culture, not a condemnation of BLM. Race exists and has strong effects on culture and treatment, and race-blindness' only function is to deny marginalized groups the opportunity to address the oppressions specific to them. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/?utm_term=.e1f8ce819ae7 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/1...

EdHominem 10y ago
> Race exists and has strong effects on culture and treatment, and race-blindness' only function is to deny marginalized groups the opportunity to address the oppressions specific to them. I think this depends on who is blind to race, and if they really are or are just not saying it because they like the status quo. If everyone was blind (literally) to race, there would be no racism... I don't think the world is helped by everyone talking about race. It's not that exciting, it's some minor physical traits. Culture, and history, are the deep topics. And I think it misses the point that if you're bullied by a sexist, or a racist, you're going to feel the same. We'd have to ban a thousand topics and it still wouldn't keep the bullies from bullying. It's better to go to the root of the problem and deal with bullies. Bullies feelings don't matter, so we don't have to worry about being PC, etc. Everyone has been bullied, so everyone can get into it. What we need to do to make this work is talk about race just enough that we don't discourage the victim revealing their bullying, but not enough to give the bullies anything to work with. > police violence is unambiguously a racial issue Right, but we won't fix it by being equally but opposite racists. We fix it by firing and charging any officer who breaks a law.

EdHominem 10y ago

> Race exists and has strong effects on culture and treatment, and race-blindness' only function is to deny marginalized groups the opportunity to address the oppressions specific to them. I think this depends on who is blind to race, and if they really are or are just not saying it because they like the status quo. If everyone was blind (literally) to race, there would be no racism... I don't think the world is helped by everyone talking about race. It's not that exciting, it's some minor physical traits. Culture, and history, are the deep topics. And I think it misses the point that if you're bullied by a sexist, or a racist, you're going to feel the same. We'd have to ban a thousand topics and it still wouldn't keep the bullies from bullying. It's better to go to the root of the problem and deal with bullies. Bullies feelings don't matter, so we don't have to worry about being PC, etc. Everyone has been bullied, so everyone can get into it. What we need to do to make this work is talk about race just enough that we don't discourage the victim revealing their bullying, but not enough to give the bullies anything to work with. > police violence is unambiguously a racial issue Right, but we won't fix it by being equally but opposite racists. We fix it by firing and charging any officer who breaks a law.