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Boy am I glad you're not in charge of foreign relations, for the sake of nearly every country in the world. "War? Whatever, so be it!". Right? A complaint oft

Boy am I glad you're not in charge of foreign relations, for the sake of nearly every country in the world. "War? Whatever, so be it!". Right? A complaint often surfaces from those that have actually lived through wars: How disconnected people are from war. Your country (I'm assuming) has been at war with various bits of the middle east for over a decade and you are not suffering the consequences. It's all remote for you. It's all drones, or "those men and women giving their life for our country gosh jolly gee we are so proud of them, so much respect". It's not you, it's not your life, not your family's life, not your friends, your city, your streets being bombed, civilians being shot in the streets - none of that is what you've been through. The US has been exporting death, bringing none of it back home. A warmongering country that is completely disconnected from the consequences; this is what leads to the "potentially nuclear war? pah, so be it, my internet is down anyway" attitude.

fowlerpower 10y ago
Your making a lot of assumptions about me. I am an immigrant from a country that has had suffered very severely from war. The point is not to let these guys do whatever they want. Go into Ukraine, kill UN volunteers in Syria. Let them become emboldened by different types of attacks and tomorrow we will have the type of war your talking about. Handle these problems now that they are small. Edit: I wanted to add that it is very often the ones who have seen what terrible tragedies happen when you let terrible people like Putin do what they want that are the biggest "warmongers". It is why you see the Israelis become so eager to defend themselves because they have seen what will happen if you don't take care of bad people like Putin when they are small.
- scrollaway 10y ago
  Well, yes, I'm making assumptions and I even highlighted them. Now if you tell me you've seen in person what war does to people and you're calling for round 2 with two superpowers, I don't believe you. If, on the other hand, you're saying that the Russia situation needs to be solved sooner rather than later, you'll have a hard time finding somebody who disagrees but that shouldn't come at the cost of the entire planet. That's just nihilism.
  - fowlerpower 10y ago
    A few things, I am not attacking your position against war. I am saying that Russia needs to be dealt with and it needs to happen sooner rather than later. I am not advocating for war but I am saying that when dealing with things like this you have to prepare for the worst. There is one superpower here not two. You cannot let them do what they want and there has been real innocent bloodshed already because of Putins actions and positions. I think we are closer in our line of thinking than it seems. I have a family and I would never advocate to end life on this planet. I am zealous about letting someone like Putin go with zero punishment because history has shown us time and time again where that will take us.
    - scrollaway 10y ago
      > I am not advocating for war Like I said, you won't find anyone who disagrees (not here anyway), but you gotta know people are arguing with you because you are, in fact, in your other posts, advocating for war - even if you didn't intend to.

fowlerpower 10y ago

Your making a lot of assumptions about me. I am an immigrant from a country that has had suffered very severely from war. The point is not to let these guys do whatever they want. Go into Ukraine, kill UN volunteers in Syria. Let them become emboldened by different types of attacks and tomorrow we will have the type of war your talking about. Handle these problems now that they are small. Edit: I wanted to add that it is very often the ones who have seen what terrible tragedies happen when you let terrible people like Putin do what they want that are the biggest "warmongers". It is why you see the Israelis become so eager to defend themselves because they have seen what will happen if you don't take care of bad people like Putin when they are small.

scrollaway 10y ago
Well, yes, I'm making assumptions and I even highlighted them. Now if you tell me you've seen in person what war does to people and you're calling for round 2 with two superpowers, I don't believe you. If, on the other hand, you're saying that the Russia situation needs to be solved sooner rather than later, you'll have a hard time finding somebody who disagrees but that shouldn't come at the cost of the entire planet. That's just nihilism.
- fowlerpower 10y ago
  A few things, I am not attacking your position against war. I am saying that Russia needs to be dealt with and it needs to happen sooner rather than later. I am not advocating for war but I am saying that when dealing with things like this you have to prepare for the worst. There is one superpower here not two. You cannot let them do what they want and there has been real innocent bloodshed already because of Putins actions and positions. I think we are closer in our line of thinking than it seems. I have a family and I would never advocate to end life on this planet. I am zealous about letting someone like Putin go with zero punishment because history has shown us time and time again where that will take us.
  - scrollaway 10y ago
    > I am not advocating for war Like I said, you won't find anyone who disagrees (not here anyway), but you gotta know people are arguing with you because you are, in fact, in your other posts, advocating for war - even if you didn't intend to.