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We're looking for more Software Engineers and Test Engineers to help Red Gate grow into one of the greatest software companies in the world. We know there are l

by dawson 16y ago

We're looking for more Software Engineers and Test Engineers to help Red Gate grow into one of the greatest software companies in the world. We know there are lots of awesome people out there who may be bored or unhappy at work. We're going to make it easy for you to be happier - at Red Gate. It's easy to apply. Just leave your details for either our Software Engineer or Test Engineer role. We don't need your CV or a covering letter at this stage. Thank you

simplegeek 16y ago
If I'm not in UK and don't have the right to work in UK, will I still be considered? Edited to Add: No I cannot. I wish it was made clear upfront. Anyway, no worries ;)
jfager 16y ago
I know I sure can't wait to work with a bunch of people who were bored and unhappy at their previous job but couldn't manage pull their shit together enough to write up a CV or cover letter, and had to be spurred by the offer of a $500 gadget to even bother to apply in the first place.
- ErrantX 16y ago
  I learned something when hiring for my current employer: CV's are only really useful as a filter if you're hiring a huge number of people. Better to chat to them on the phone first; then ask for a complete CV w references if they pass muster.
  - jfager 16y ago
    I'm not saying anything about the usefulness of a CV in the hiring process, I'm saying that it's pretty uninspiring to suggest that the need to put one together is a great hurdle for the kind of developers you're hoping to hire. It just hits me the wrong way that the traits of the developers you're saying you want are: bored, unhappy, unable to afford an iPad, and too lazy to type up a short description of themselves.
    - nagrom 16y ago
      Or, they're people who are really busy, aren't looking for a job right now but are open to new offers. Maybe people like myself who work in related disciplines and are considering a career change. The iPad is just a way of gaining publicity, and it seems to have worked pretty nicely.
- barrkel 16y ago
  Here's a different perspective: this gimmick raised the profile of this round of recruitment to the front page of HN.
  - jfager 16y ago
    It's not like it's seriously difficult to get something on the HN frontpage, and if it's at the cost of alienating the kind of developers you'd actually want to hire, so what?
    - dawson 16y ago
      It's a marketing campaign to raise recruitment awareness and not the sum of RG or its potential employees.
      - jfager 16y ago
        Ok, gotcha: it's not that you actually want to hire people who are bored, unhappy, lazy, and gadget-coveting, it's that you want to say you want to hire those people in a cynical attempt to game the media, so that the people who you really do want to hire will see said cynical manipulation, admire your cunning, and hop on board? Do they still get the free iPad?
        dawson 16y ago
        Yes, and free food. Do you need a hug? I think you do.
        jfager 16y ago
        I need a decent news site that's not treated as a spam dump by enterprise software companies. Give me a free one of those, and maybe I'll swing round for an interview.
        eru 16y ago
eru 16y ago
Thanks to Red Gate for attracting people with a free iPad. While you are in the area, you might also want to have a look at the Cambridge office of Citrix. We are currently around 50 people and look to add ca 20 new employees this year. We are working on virtualization, e.g. XenServer. So a background in operating systems helps, but is not necessary. (I did not have one.) The infrastructure is closely aligned with Unix systems, but the guest systems our customers run are mostly Windows machines. We don't offer free iPads for interviewees, but the software we write in Cambridge is open-sourced and you'll have the opportunity to hack in functional languages. (C, Python and friends are also helpful. I only mention FP because that's what drew me here in the first place.) Benefits and pay seem similar to Red Gate (though as far as I know the high end may go higher here), only our kitchen isn't equipped to prepare lunch. Please drop me an email if you want to learn more. You can find my email address in my profile.
- pclark 16y ago
  functional programming vs free lunch, free iPad and cool like this: http://blog.businessofsoftware.org/2010/02/what-will-happen-when-a-software-company-downs-tools-for-a-week.html http://blog.businessofsoftware.org/2010/02/what-will-happen-... :D (I upvoted you so)
  - eru 16y ago
    You forgot about free software (as in speech) on our side of the versus. :D And thanks to my efforts we have a nice stack of German style boardgames, now. We also play Diplomacy from time to time. If you want to join gaming, you can come over. Also you can participate on our pool or 9-ball or foosball ladder, and we will see who's better. ;o) Good luck with your recruitment! P.S. The projects you linked sound cool.
    - tome 16y ago
      The greed inside me makes me feel like I want to pop up to the science park to interview for Red Gate right now (I'm about 15 minutes away), but what you've said about Citrix is very appealing to the good and holy part of me and that side generally wins with me! :)
DrJokepu 16y ago
I just wonder if you have anyone at Red Gate who commutes from London? While I've heard a lot of good stuff about Red Gate and Cambridge is a very nice place I would be hesitant to give up the awesomeness of living in London. (I suppose I'm not alone with that).
- pclark 16y ago
  If you had a brompton I think it'd be fine (red gate hq is miles from station - literally)
  - eru 16y ago
    There's also a bus. Or you can leave your bike locked at the train station overnight.
- eru 16y ago
  We (that is Citrix) have some people who commute from London. And our office is just a few hundred metres away from Red Gate. (We are also hiring. Drop me an email, if you are interested.)
  - watmough 16y ago
    Man, I'd love to rewrite the god-awful son-of-windows-3.1 UI on citrix. Solid software, terrible UI. Glad it's a good company though! "We're not the sort of company that tosses a man out because he's over 40. How old are you Reggie?"
    - eru 16y ago
      You are right about the UI. (Of course the UI is not made at the Cambridge office, where we only produce nice software. :o) I have heard that Citrix is looking into making better UIs. All our top managers have been converted into Apple fan boys for a start.
- buro9 16y ago
  If you're in London and don't want to leave or commute outside then we (labs.yell.com) are looking for 20 to 25 developers at the moment to help establish the newly formed labs. We don't offer ipads but you will get an octo-core mac pro on your desk with 2 large monitors, an iphone, pension, bonuses, good pay, etc... and we'll give you work you will find challenging (whatever your level of challenging is). Further more we are in the centre of London, cross-section of Grays Inn Road and Theobalds Road, so you'll still have access to whatever turns you on (hipster highway leads to Shoreditch, we're equidistant from both the city and West End). I saw your background is C# from StackOverflow, but hope you'll find yourself comfortable with picking up whatever tool is required (Objective C, C, Java, C#, Python, etc). Training will of course be there and if this doesn't interest you specifically then please tell other devs in London (or willing to move to London) who you think would fit into a really creative, relaxed and passionate team. Drop me an email on my personal email (on my profile page) to sidestep the HR obstacles and get yourself in front of the devs who work there.

by dawson 16y ago

simplegeek 16y ago

If I'm not in UK and don't have the right to work in UK, will I still be considered? Edited to Add: No I cannot. I wish it was made clear upfront. Anyway, no worries ;)

jfager 16y ago

I know I sure can't wait to work with a bunch of people who were bored and unhappy at their previous job but couldn't manage pull their shit together enough to write up a CV or cover letter, and had to be spurred by the offer of a $500 gadget to even bother to apply in the first place.

ErrantX 16y ago
I learned something when hiring for my current employer: CV's are only really useful as a filter if you're hiring a huge number of people. Better to chat to them on the phone first; then ask for a complete CV w references if they pass muster.
- jfager 16y ago
  I'm not saying anything about the usefulness of a CV in the hiring process, I'm saying that it's pretty uninspiring to suggest that the need to put one together is a great hurdle for the kind of developers you're hoping to hire. It just hits me the wrong way that the traits of the developers you're saying you want are: bored, unhappy, unable to afford an iPad, and too lazy to type up a short description of themselves.
  - nagrom 16y ago
    Or, they're people who are really busy, aren't looking for a job right now but are open to new offers. Maybe people like myself who work in related disciplines and are considering a career change. The iPad is just a way of gaining publicity, and it seems to have worked pretty nicely.
barrkel 16y ago
Here's a different perspective: this gimmick raised the profile of this round of recruitment to the front page of HN.
- jfager 16y ago
  It's not like it's seriously difficult to get something on the HN frontpage, and if it's at the cost of alienating the kind of developers you'd actually want to hire, so what?
  - dawson 16y ago
    It's a marketing campaign to raise recruitment awareness and not the sum of RG or its potential employees.
    - jfager 16y ago
      Ok, gotcha: it's not that you actually want to hire people who are bored, unhappy, lazy, and gadget-coveting, it's that you want to say you want to hire those people in a cynical attempt to game the media, so that the people who you really do want to hire will see said cynical manipulation, admire your cunning, and hop on board? Do they still get the free iPad?
      - dawson 16y ago
        Yes, and free food. Do you need a hug? I think you do.
        jfager 16y ago
        I need a decent news site that's not treated as a spam dump by enterprise software companies. Give me a free one of those, and maybe I'll swing round for an interview.
        eru 16y ago

eru 16y ago

Thanks to Red Gate for attracting people with a free iPad. While you are in the area, you might also want to have a look at the Cambridge office of Citrix. We are currently around 50 people and look to add ca 20 new employees this year. We are working on virtualization, e.g. XenServer. So a background in operating systems helps, but is not necessary. (I did not have one.) The infrastructure is closely aligned with Unix systems, but the guest systems our customers run are mostly Windows machines. We don't offer free iPads for interviewees, but the software we write in Cambridge is open-sourced and you'll have the opportunity to hack in functional languages. (C, Python and friends are also helpful. I only mention FP because that's what drew me here in the first place.) Benefits and pay seem similar to Red Gate (though as far as I know the high end may go higher here), only our kitchen isn't equipped to prepare lunch. Please drop me an email if you want to learn more. You can find my email address in my profile.

pclark 16y ago
functional programming vs free lunch, free iPad and cool like this: http://blog.businessofsoftware.org/2010/02/what-will-happen-when-a-software-company-downs-tools-for-a-week.html http://blog.businessofsoftware.org/2010/02/what-will-happen-... :D (I upvoted you so)
- eru 16y ago
  You forgot about free software (as in speech) on our side of the versus. :D And thanks to my efforts we have a nice stack of German style boardgames, now. We also play Diplomacy from time to time. If you want to join gaming, you can come over. Also you can participate on our pool or 9-ball or foosball ladder, and we will see who's better. ;o) Good luck with your recruitment! P.S. The projects you linked sound cool.
  - tome 16y ago
    The greed inside me makes me feel like I want to pop up to the science park to interview for Red Gate right now (I'm about 15 minutes away), but what you've said about Citrix is very appealing to the good and holy part of me and that side generally wins with me! :)

DrJokepu 16y ago

I just wonder if you have anyone at Red Gate who commutes from London? While I've heard a lot of good stuff about Red Gate and Cambridge is a very nice place I would be hesitant to give up the awesomeness of living in London. (I suppose I'm not alone with that).

pclark 16y ago
If you had a brompton I think it'd be fine (red gate hq is miles from station - literally)
- eru 16y ago
  There's also a bus. Or you can leave your bike locked at the train station overnight.
eru 16y ago
We (that is Citrix) have some people who commute from London. And our office is just a few hundred metres away from Red Gate. (We are also hiring. Drop me an email, if you are interested.)
- watmough 16y ago
  Man, I'd love to rewrite the god-awful son-of-windows-3.1 UI on citrix. Solid software, terrible UI. Glad it's a good company though! "We're not the sort of company that tosses a man out because he's over 40. How old are you Reggie?"
  - eru 16y ago
    You are right about the UI. (Of course the UI is not made at the Cambridge office, where we only produce nice software. :o) I have heard that Citrix is looking into making better UIs. All our top managers have been converted into Apple fan boys for a start.
buro9 16y ago
If you're in London and don't want to leave or commute outside then we (labs.yell.com) are looking for 20 to 25 developers at the moment to help establish the newly formed labs. We don't offer ipads but you will get an octo-core mac pro on your desk with 2 large monitors, an iphone, pension, bonuses, good pay, etc... and we'll give you work you will find challenging (whatever your level of challenging is). Further more we are in the centre of London, cross-section of Grays Inn Road and Theobalds Road, so you'll still have access to whatever turns you on (hipster highway leads to Shoreditch, we're equidistant from both the city and West End). I saw your background is C# from StackOverflow, but hope you'll find yourself comfortable with picking up whatever tool is required (Objective C, C, Java, C#, Python, etc). Training will of course be there and if this doesn't interest you specifically then please tell other devs in London (or willing to move to London) who you think would fit into a really creative, relaxed and passionate team. Drop me an email on my personal email (on my profile page) to sidestep the HR obstacles and get yourself in front of the devs who work there.