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I live in NYC and I can tell you that New Yorkers do not want AirBnB. We do not want transients in our apartment buildings. We want our safety. Many of us ha

I live in NYC and I can tell you that New Yorkers do not want AirBnB. We do not want transients in our apartment buildings. We want our safety. Many of us have doormen that keep people out. There are children, there are elderly. The executives and the VC firms that fund them show absolutely no respect for New Yorkers who value our safety. > "Cuomo’s signature underscores a concern from companies that operate within the “sharing economy” that New York remains unreceptive to newer technologies that threaten some within certain industries, such as the hospitality and taxi industries." This quote from the article is false. We highly value Uber/Lyft/Gett. New Yorkers love high technology: we have the only 24/367 Apple Store in the nation. We have a 24 hour Best Buy. Same Day Delivery from a number of different vendors. ClassPass, MealPal, MoviePass, CUPS, the list is a long one and some of these firms were first started in NYC. What seems clear to New Yorkers is that AirBnB executives do not value safety.

mancerayder 10y ago
There's no way to not come off as snarky here, but you keep saying 'New Yorkers want this' and 'clear to New Yorkers' that. Do you have polls to back this up? Otherwise this rhetoric reads like a quote from a politician or talk radio. My question is, how do you know the majority of people agree with you?
- tedunangst 10y ago
  Airbnb doesn't seem to mind saying that New Yorkers want airbnb because "thousands" of them say so. Doesn't seem hard to imagine there are a thousand New Yorkers who don't, justifying the opposite claim.
  - davidf18 10y ago
    We all value our safety. Many, many buildings have doormen to keep people out to help protect safety. There is a lot of crime in big cities. I don't know anyone that wants transients in their building. The people AirBnB is referring to are simply those who want to rent their places out for additional money. I think AirBnB could care less about the safety of children, elderly, women, and others. I have seen no acknowledgement that people living in apartment buildings value their safety.
    - morgante 10y ago
      Please don't put words in other people's mouths. I don't think my safety is in any way threatened by allowing my neighbors to rent out their apartment while they're on vacation.
      - davidf18 10y ago
        From my statement: > I think AirBnB could care less about the safety of children, elderly, women, and others. Well, I'm very happy to hear that you, living in NYC, do not feel threatened by transients. I wasn't referring to myself but children, elderly, and women. If if physically able men don't feel threatened, there are others that should be protected from harm from transients. EDIT: I see by your other comments that you don't even live in NYC! You are complaining about hotel rates > $60. Those of us that live here in NYC value the safety of protecting children, elderly neighbors, women, and our property from transients. For short term stays, go to Union City NJ which is just across from the Lincoln Tunnel (42nd St). A simple priceline search shows $60 per day. Please show sensitivity to others that value their safety and those of their neighbors.
        morgante 10y ago
        I do live in NYC. This talk of "transients" is preposterous and, frankly, dubious. What do you think "transients" are? Roving bands of criminals? Your comment is the most pathetic example of "think of the children" I have ever seen. Do you have any examples of material harm being done to children by Airbnb guests?
        davidf18 10y ago
        Well, I was responding to your comment about not being able to find a $60 hotel room: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12768260 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12768260 As someone in NYC then, you know that Union City, NJ is very close to Times Square by transit and has low-cost hotel rooms, so I don't understand your complaint. Transit-wise these hotels are much closer to Times Square than many places parts of NYC. I don't know anyone that wants transients in their buildings and the threat to children, women, and children is a real one. Let people go to Union City, NJ and get their hotel rooms.

mancerayder 10y ago

There's no way to not come off as snarky here, but you keep saying 'New Yorkers want this' and 'clear to New Yorkers' that. Do you have polls to back this up? Otherwise this rhetoric reads like a quote from a politician or talk radio. My question is, how do you know the majority of people agree with you?

tedunangst 10y ago
Airbnb doesn't seem to mind saying that New Yorkers want airbnb because "thousands" of them say so. Doesn't seem hard to imagine there are a thousand New Yorkers who don't, justifying the opposite claim.
- davidf18 10y ago
  We all value our safety. Many, many buildings have doormen to keep people out to help protect safety. There is a lot of crime in big cities. I don't know anyone that wants transients in their building. The people AirBnB is referring to are simply those who want to rent their places out for additional money. I think AirBnB could care less about the safety of children, elderly, women, and others. I have seen no acknowledgement that people living in apartment buildings value their safety.
  - morgante 10y ago
    Please don't put words in other people's mouths. I don't think my safety is in any way threatened by allowing my neighbors to rent out their apartment while they're on vacation.
    - davidf18 10y ago
      From my statement: > I think AirBnB could care less about the safety of children, elderly, women, and others. Well, I'm very happy to hear that you, living in NYC, do not feel threatened by transients. I wasn't referring to myself but children, elderly, and women. If if physically able men don't feel threatened, there are others that should be protected from harm from transients. EDIT: I see by your other comments that you don't even live in NYC! You are complaining about hotel rates > $60. Those of us that live here in NYC value the safety of protecting children, elderly neighbors, women, and our property from transients. For short term stays, go to Union City NJ which is just across from the Lincoln Tunnel (42nd St). A simple priceline search shows $60 per day. Please show sensitivity to others that value their safety and those of their neighbors.
      - morgante 10y ago
        I do live in NYC. This talk of "transients" is preposterous and, frankly, dubious. What do you think "transients" are? Roving bands of criminals? Your comment is the most pathetic example of "think of the children" I have ever seen. Do you have any examples of material harm being done to children by Airbnb guests?
        davidf18 10y ago
        Well, I was responding to your comment about not being able to find a $60 hotel room: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12768260 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12768260 As someone in NYC then, you know that Union City, NJ is very close to Times Square by transit and has low-cost hotel rooms, so I don't understand your complaint. Transit-wise these hotels are much closer to Times Square than many places parts of NYC. I don't know anyone that wants transients in their buildings and the threat to children, women, and children is a real one. Let people go to Union City, NJ and get their hotel rooms.