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I regularly go to NYC for a month with my partner and son so that the grandparents can interact with their grandson. I always AirBnB a place near the residentia

I regularly go to NYC for a month with my partner and son so that the grandparents can interact with their grandson. I always AirBnB a place near the residential neighborhood that my parents live in. Because we have a young child, we prefer our own apartment, rather than staying with the grandparents, nor would the three of us be able to stay in "someone's spare room". This new bill is absolutely terrible for us, because it limits us to staying in expensive hotels, for a month! EDIT: There's no mention of 30+ days limit anywhere in the article as far I can tell.

DanFeldman 10y ago
I guess go off airbnb and contact the host directly? Does this bill make personal connections like this (especially without brokering through airbnb) illegal?
- YuriNiyazov 10y ago
  Are you saying I should first find a room on airbnb, and then make a deal that I am actually trying to rent the whole apartment? Or should I go on craigslist? FWIW, Craigslist is an absolute non-starter - even though there were publicized incidents with AirBnB guests trashing the place, or hosts being shady, the Verified ID system on AirBnB does ensure some amount of traceability in case of incidents or fraud.
feedjoelpie 10y ago
If this keeps up, a lot of grandparents won't be able to afford to live in NYC in the first place.
untog 10y ago
Actually, no - the legislation allows rentals with a minimum of 30 days.
- YuriNiyazov 10y ago
  There's no mention of that anywhere.
  - untog 10y ago
    There is in this article: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbnb-regulation-insight-idUSKCN12L0DY http://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbnb-regulation-insight-... > Existing New York state law bars most urban apartment-dwellers from renting out their units for less than 30 days if they are not present. It appears this new law is relating to the advertising of such rentals - presumably as a way to more effectively clamp down on those that were already illegal.
  - mancerayder 10y ago
    What's mentioned is the Multiple Dwelling Law, which covers the '30 day' aspect. The 30-day aspect is related to tenant protections that kick in after 30 days. It's not a random choice of timeframe.
  - tedunangst 10y ago
    Can you not click the link to the bill and read all two pages of it?
adevine 10y ago
Month long stays should be permitted. The original law (that was passed a couple years ago) prohibited short term rentals for fewer than 30 days, but 30 days+ should be permitted.
- YuriNiyazov 10y ago
  What exactly does this law add?
  - mtalantikite 10y ago
    "While it is already illegal to occupy a class A multiple dwelling for less than 30 days, this legislation would clarify that it also illegal to advertise units for occupancy that would violate New York law. However, online home sharing platforms still contain advertisements for use of units that would violate New York law. It rests with the city and state to protect communities and existing affordable housing stock by prohibiting advertisements that violate the law, creating a civil penalty structure for those who violate the prohibition, and clarifying activities that constitute advertising." It adds a fine of up to $7500 if a host is caught listing their unit for less than 30 days, among other things.
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gaur 10y ago
Meanwhile, people who don't have cushy jobs that allow them to randomly move for a month at a time need apartments to live in (and also, a lot of them probably can't afford kids even if they want them). Complaining that it's now more expensive for your kid to get quality time with grandpa just seems overprivileged.

DanFeldman 10y ago

I guess go off airbnb and contact the host directly? Does this bill make personal connections like this (especially without brokering through airbnb) illegal?

YuriNiyazov 10y ago
Are you saying I should first find a room on airbnb, and then make a deal that I am actually trying to rent the whole apartment? Or should I go on craigslist? FWIW, Craigslist is an absolute non-starter - even though there were publicized incidents with AirBnB guests trashing the place, or hosts being shady, the Verified ID system on AirBnB does ensure some amount of traceability in case of incidents or fraud.

feedjoelpie 10y ago

If this keeps up, a lot of grandparents won't be able to afford to live in NYC in the first place.

untog 10y ago

Actually, no - the legislation allows rentals with a minimum of 30 days.

YuriNiyazov 10y ago
There's no mention of that anywhere.
- untog 10y ago
  There is in this article: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbnb-regulation-insight-idUSKCN12L0DY http://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbnb-regulation-insight-... > Existing New York state law bars most urban apartment-dwellers from renting out their units for less than 30 days if they are not present. It appears this new law is relating to the advertising of such rentals - presumably as a way to more effectively clamp down on those that were already illegal.
- mancerayder 10y ago
  What's mentioned is the Multiple Dwelling Law, which covers the '30 day' aspect. The 30-day aspect is related to tenant protections that kick in after 30 days. It's not a random choice of timeframe.
- tedunangst 10y ago
  Can you not click the link to the bill and read all two pages of it?

adevine 10y ago

Month long stays should be permitted. The original law (that was passed a couple years ago) prohibited short term rentals for fewer than 30 days, but 30 days+ should be permitted.

YuriNiyazov 10y ago
What exactly does this law add?
- mtalantikite 10y ago
  "While it is already illegal to occupy a class A multiple dwelling for less than 30 days, this legislation would clarify that it also illegal to advertise units for occupancy that would violate New York law. However, online home sharing platforms still contain advertisements for use of units that would violate New York law. It rests with the city and state to protect communities and existing affordable housing stock by prohibiting advertisements that violate the law, creating a civil penalty structure for those who violate the prohibition, and clarifying activities that constitute advertising." It adds a fine of up to $7500 if a host is caught listing their unit for less than 30 days, among other things.
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gaur 10y ago

Meanwhile, people who don't have cushy jobs that allow them to randomly move for a month at a time need apartments to live in (and also, a lot of them probably can't afford kids even if they want them). Complaining that it's now more expensive for your kid to get quality time with grandpa just seems overprivileged.