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What I would say however is that some of those issue you mention are more about how organisations typically manage Windows systems than they are about Windows i

What I would say however is that some of those issue you mention are more about how organisations typically manage Windows systems than they are about Windows itself. Active Directory is a good example, there's no necessity to add a windows system to an Active Directory, and if a company is going down a less centrally controlled model, which includes things like MacOS systems, it would make sense to not force the Windows boxes to log in to AD. Personally, I've run Windows/MacOS and Linux for a reasonable number of years and I wouldn't say that one was necessarily vastly more stable that the others (assuming current software) What I do see is that a lot of "traditional corporate" systems get loaded down with additional layers of software which can cause issues, remove that and I think you have a less crashy experience, regardless of the underlying OS.

stcredzero 10y ago
The NT kernel has always been rock solid -- so long as it's unmolested. Microsoft made some deliberate decisions in the 90's in the name of performance that made it much less stable. They spent several OS versions working past that, and past some other unpleasant things about the Windows ecosystem. What I've found over the past 18 years is that Apple is the best at creating an environment where I can install dev or media artist stuff, keep up to date with the latest software and OS, and it all just works -- no WTF moments or frustration. (With the one stark exception of Apple's CoreStorage volume management system.) That said, Apple's OS has also been getting less dev friendly and more consumer oriented in recent years.
- raesene9 10y ago
  Sure I'd say that both Windows and MacOS are getting less Dev friendly, but that's inevitable I'd say as their main perceived market is consumers and really to operate safely in todays environment you either have to be technical or let the OS take control of more aspects of your computing experience. My guess is that most consumers will end up running and iOS like managed environment in the next 5 years or so and more technical people will end up running Linux.
greedo 10y ago
The idea of running a decently sized corporation without AD is a non-starter. Fileshares alone would be unmanageable. I'm not talking a 50 person shop, I'm talking an enterprise with multiple locations and several thousand desktops. As much as I dislike having to use and manage Windows when it comes up, AD is an essential tool.
- raesene6 10y ago
  In an enterprise sure you need it for rights management, but then that's not really related to what the client OS is, you can run MacOS or Windows clients largely equally well if you're not using AD to centrally manage them.
  - greedo 10y ago
    Well the OP wasn't talking about running macOS or Windows at home, but in a corporate/business environment.
    - raesene6 10y ago
      nor am I :) I'm suggesting that one of the perceived advantages of MacOS is that it's not tied to a heavyweight arduous Active Directory installation and that, in my book, there's not reason not to run Windows in exactly the same manner. My point being, I don't think it's so much a difference between the Operating systems but how they're operated.

stcredzero 10y ago

The NT kernel has always been rock solid -- so long as it's unmolested. Microsoft made some deliberate decisions in the 90's in the name of performance that made it much less stable. They spent several OS versions working past that, and past some other unpleasant things about the Windows ecosystem. What I've found over the past 18 years is that Apple is the best at creating an environment where I can install dev or media artist stuff, keep up to date with the latest software and OS, and it all just works -- no WTF moments or frustration. (With the one stark exception of Apple's CoreStorage volume management system.) That said, Apple's OS has also been getting less dev friendly and more consumer oriented in recent years.

raesene9 10y ago
Sure I'd say that both Windows and MacOS are getting less Dev friendly, but that's inevitable I'd say as their main perceived market is consumers and really to operate safely in todays environment you either have to be technical or let the OS take control of more aspects of your computing experience. My guess is that most consumers will end up running and iOS like managed environment in the next 5 years or so and more technical people will end up running Linux.

greedo 10y ago

The idea of running a decently sized corporation without AD is a non-starter. Fileshares alone would be unmanageable. I'm not talking a 50 person shop, I'm talking an enterprise with multiple locations and several thousand desktops. As much as I dislike having to use and manage Windows when it comes up, AD is an essential tool.

raesene6 10y ago
In an enterprise sure you need it for rights management, but then that's not really related to what the client OS is, you can run MacOS or Windows clients largely equally well if you're not using AD to centrally manage them.
- greedo 10y ago
  Well the OP wasn't talking about running macOS or Windows at home, but in a corporate/business environment.
  - raesene6 10y ago
    nor am I :) I'm suggesting that one of the perceived advantages of MacOS is that it's not tied to a heavyweight arduous Active Directory installation and that, in my book, there's not reason not to run Windows in exactly the same manner. My point being, I don't think it's so much a difference between the Operating systems but how they're operated.