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> How I would describe a MacBook is "quality". It's not especially durable, it just doesn't break down over time. I've definitely noticed the same thing. Almos

> How I would describe a MacBook is "quality". It's not especially durable, it just doesn't break down over time. I've definitely noticed the same thing. Almost every laptop (and computer, for that matter) has broken down within a year to a year and a half for some random dumb reason. Two of my laptops died due to messed up power supply connections on the motherboard, two others died due to the hinges completely snapping off, and another died because the hard drive failed - and that one was an aluminum iMac that I pawned off to my friend, who replaced the HDD and it works just fine still. I've had my current MBP since 2012, and it's chugging along just fine - except for the hard drive, which I replaced with an SSD and have no problems with, and ironically enough the hinges, which totally cracked. I had to buy some replacement hinges off of iFixit, which I'm waiting on delivery for today. Apple computers have by far been the longest lasting and least likely to crap out on me that I've ever had. I'm very happy with my old MBP, and the only reason I'm considering upgrading to a newer model is because I can tell this one might be on its way out in general. The one thing stopping me is the price point... $1600+, yikes.

camiller 10y ago
Flip side of the coin here, My personal HP laptop was bought on special as Windows 8 was just coming to market and the store wanted to get the older stuff with Win7 off the shelves. That would put it around late 2012, so almost 4 years old. I was getting fed up with the Win 10 upgrade and decided it was time to go full time Linux, I replaced the old drive with a SSD, not because the drive failed but because I wanted to, plus as a safety net I could always put the Windows drive back in. Sure I'd like to buy a new laptop, and am leaning toward System76, but as long as the one I have is still working I can't really justify it.
kogepathic 10y ago
> Almost every laptop (and computer, for that matter) has broken down within a year to a year and a half for some random dumb reason. Consumer hardware is crap because the market doesn't want to pay for anything above crap. The laptops break after a year because that's how long the warranty is, and the manufacturer is counting on you to come back and buy next year's cheapest model when your laptop breaks. Go look at enterprise quality PC laptops, they cost as much as a Mac does, but they last just as long. I can tell you stories of ThinkPads which I have personally seen run over by cars, and while the LCD is broken and the body is a bit scuffed, they still work with an external monitor. > The one thing stopping me is the price point... $1600+, yikes. Yup, and if you buy mobile workstations, you're going to pay that much. The great thing about PCs though is that they don't retain their value like a Mac does. This is why whenever someone asks me for a laptop recommendation, my first pick would be a 2-3 year old enterprise laptop. You can pick them up refurbished for around $300, and they'll easily last you another 3. The only disadvantage is that companies are afraid to innovate their business laptop line, so in a lot of cases you're stuck with laptops that have a 1366x768 screen while everyone else is running around with a $2000+ extremely fragile ultrabook, which has a 3K display.
- forgettableuser 10y ago
  Some time ago, a coworker of mine was in a terrible car rollover accident. He escaped without long lasting injuries, but the car was totaled. His Macbook Pro was loose in the car and it got bent in the middle. Amazingly, only the DVD drive was destroyed. Everything else continued to work.
- WWLink 10y ago
  The Dell Precisions that are just rebranded Dell XPS laptops. They're nice at first but get annoying after a while. That said, the 5510 feels a heck of a lot more durable than the m3800 I used to have.

camiller 10y ago

Flip side of the coin here, My personal HP laptop was bought on special as Windows 8 was just coming to market and the store wanted to get the older stuff with Win7 off the shelves. That would put it around late 2012, so almost 4 years old. I was getting fed up with the Win 10 upgrade and decided it was time to go full time Linux, I replaced the old drive with a SSD, not because the drive failed but because I wanted to, plus as a safety net I could always put the Windows drive back in. Sure I'd like to buy a new laptop, and am leaning toward System76, but as long as the one I have is still working I can't really justify it.

kogepathic 10y ago

> Almost every laptop (and computer, for that matter) has broken down within a year to a year and a half for some random dumb reason. Consumer hardware is crap because the market doesn't want to pay for anything above crap. The laptops break after a year because that's how long the warranty is, and the manufacturer is counting on you to come back and buy next year's cheapest model when your laptop breaks. Go look at enterprise quality PC laptops, they cost as much as a Mac does, but they last just as long. I can tell you stories of ThinkPads which I have personally seen run over by cars, and while the LCD is broken and the body is a bit scuffed, they still work with an external monitor. > The one thing stopping me is the price point... $1600+, yikes. Yup, and if you buy mobile workstations, you're going to pay that much. The great thing about PCs though is that they don't retain their value like a Mac does. This is why whenever someone asks me for a laptop recommendation, my first pick would be a 2-3 year old enterprise laptop. You can pick them up refurbished for around $300, and they'll easily last you another 3. The only disadvantage is that companies are afraid to innovate their business laptop line, so in a lot of cases you're stuck with laptops that have a 1366x768 screen while everyone else is running around with a $2000+ extremely fragile ultrabook, which has a 3K display.

forgettableuser 10y ago
Some time ago, a coworker of mine was in a terrible car rollover accident. He escaped without long lasting injuries, but the car was totaled. His Macbook Pro was loose in the car and it got bent in the middle. Amazingly, only the DVD drive was destroyed. Everything else continued to work.
WWLink 10y ago
The Dell Precisions that are just rebranded Dell XPS laptops. They're nice at first but get annoying after a while. That said, the 5510 feels a heck of a lot more durable than the m3800 I used to have.