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Yep. Biologist here lol. It would be interesting to know how much biology this dude truly explored before plunking down his $100M on some other dude promising

Yep. Biologist here lol. It would be interesting to know how much biology this dude truly explored before plunking down his $100M on some other dude promising him to revolutionize the brain.

hprotagonist 10y ago
BME / sensory neurosystems guy here. >It would be interesting to know how much biology this dude truly explored before plunking down his $100M ... Not enough.
- forgotmysn 10y ago
  Would you guys prefer that Johnson donate his $100M to the NIH or a university that's already working on related research, or is there benefit to him taking a different route and funding Berger and this org directly?
  - hprotagonist 10y ago
    I think i'm largely agnostic about that in principle. In practice, collaborations are hard and setting up new ones is even harder, so striking out into the wild and being able to do cool stuff fast generally costs more than 100M.
    - forgotmysn 10y ago
      From what I understand though, that's exactly why Johnson invested his own money and turned down outside investment: this is just the first step on a very long road, and it doesn't sound like he anticipates a viable return in an amount of time that a venture fund could justify participating in.
      - hprotagonist 10y ago
        >" The futuristic device, which Johnson says might actually not need to be implanted beneath the skull at all, is designed to facilitate communication between brain cells by hacking the “neural code” that enables our brain to store and recall key information. " Estimated timescale: centuries. Not for want of trying, but we have no credible idea what "the" neural code is, even in subcortical areas that are relatively simple to study like the optic and auditory nerves. Once you're anywhere beyond the inferior colliculus, all bets are officially off. (and if you have any good ideas, drop me a line!) Our best tools fail to explain anything particularly interesting about much, much simpler analogous systems: http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/05/26/055624 http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/05/26/055624.
bra-ket 10y ago
hopefully they've learned something from Blue Brain: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-human-brain-project-went-wrong-and-how-to-fix-it/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-human-bra...

Yep. Biologist here lol. It would be interesting to know how much biology this dude truly explored before plunking down his $100M on some other dude promising him to revolutionize the brain.

hprotagonist 10y ago

BME / sensory neurosystems guy here. >It would be interesting to know how much biology this dude truly explored before plunking down his $100M ... Not enough.

forgotmysn 10y ago
Would you guys prefer that Johnson donate his $100M to the NIH or a university that's already working on related research, or is there benefit to him taking a different route and funding Berger and this org directly?
- hprotagonist 10y ago
  I think i'm largely agnostic about that in principle. In practice, collaborations are hard and setting up new ones is even harder, so striking out into the wild and being able to do cool stuff fast generally costs more than 100M.
  - forgotmysn 10y ago
    From what I understand though, that's exactly why Johnson invested his own money and turned down outside investment: this is just the first step on a very long road, and it doesn't sound like he anticipates a viable return in an amount of time that a venture fund could justify participating in.
    - hprotagonist 10y ago
      >" The futuristic device, which Johnson says might actually not need to be implanted beneath the skull at all, is designed to facilitate communication between brain cells by hacking the “neural code” that enables our brain to store and recall key information. " Estimated timescale: centuries. Not for want of trying, but we have no credible idea what "the" neural code is, even in subcortical areas that are relatively simple to study like the optic and auditory nerves. Once you're anywhere beyond the inferior colliculus, all bets are officially off. (and if you have any good ideas, drop me a line!) Our best tools fail to explain anything particularly interesting about much, much simpler analogous systems: http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/05/26/055624 http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/05/26/055624.

bra-ket 10y ago

hopefully they've learned something from Blue Brain: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-human-brain-project-went-wrong-and-how-to-fix-it/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-the-human-bra...