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Yes, the interesting thing would be if any emails with controversial content can be verified. I don't think there were any real bombshells in the wikileaks ema

by dzdt 10y ago

Yes, the interesting thing would be if any emails with controversial content can be verified. I don't think there were any real bombshells in the wikileaks emails, but still...

thomask0 10y ago
Most of the things i've came across that are being brought up as bombshells are actually incoming mails from outside the campaign. Plus there is a number of things that are being put out of context like the Hillary hates Everyday Americans thing, where it's clear from the context that it is just about the phrasing
- gravypod 10y ago
  There are a lot of things that are horrible in these leaks. For example, here are four: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/13/four-juiciest-leaked-podesta-emails/92014368/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/... From those four, the following are "verified" by the OP of this thread. - 5205: The Clinton's seem to have had access to the questions to a debate. - 4178: The Clinton's seem to have been advised about the investigation into their emails from someone in the DOJ. These are two out of 4. I'll edit this if someone links other articles and I'll check them across this link.
  - thomask0 10y ago
    The DOJ status hearing is one of the perfect examples of something out of WikiLeaks that was way blown out of proportion by tweeting first, ask questions later. http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/10/11/nbc-reporter-suggests-scandal-over-routine-status-hearing-regarding-release-clinton-emails/213754 http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/10/11/nbc-reporter-sug... http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/10/trump-clinton-wikileaks-doj-229615 http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/10/trump-... On the debate thing, a Bernie senior aide came out and said that she gave guidance to Sanders campaign too. The most nefarious scenario would be that Brazile gave questions to Clinton to prop her up. The less nefarious scenario would be that Brazile from her DNC position tried to get the best out of both candidates to not embarrass the DNC. Note that Brazile and CNN are still denying she could have gotten access to the townhall questions. I agree though that networks should not put themselves in these kind of conflict of interests, by hiring a political commentator that is paid by the DNC at the same time, or a former campaign manager that is still on the payroll of said campaign like Corey Lewandowski. http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-former-senior-aide-to-bernie-sanders-1476297181-htmlstory.html http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trai...
protomyth 10y ago
"I don't think there were any real bombshells in the wikileaks emails, but still..." Yes, there are quite a few bombshells. There are now tags of twitter about specific e-mails. If you are a Bernie Sanders fan, then the level of betrayal and cheating is astounding. Never mind the e-mails that shows the staged violence at Trump rallies. If this was a Republican candidate, it would be criminal charge time with the Project Veritas videos as exhibit 2.
- dzdt 10y ago
  Specific examples that are in your opinion most worthy of authentication?
  - protomyth 10y ago
    I'm at work so, and I'll get the rest later tonight (Twitter won't load for me now anyway): https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3023 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3023 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808 wow, what the heck, I'll get more later but a lot of sites just aren't loading [edit: guess its not just me https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12762397 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12762397 ]
    - tdb7893 10y ago
      This pretty much just shows that some people in the DNC were kinda biased and played politics. It's literally their job to do what they think is best for the party and that seems to be what they are doing (whether I agree with them is a different matter but currently besides the point).
      - protomyth 10y ago
        I'm pretty sure a Bernie Sanders supporter would say this goes way beyond that. Leaking plans from one candidate to another is beyond best for the party.

by dzdt 10y ago

Yes, the interesting thing would be if any emails with controversial content can be verified. I don't think there were any real bombshells in the wikileaks emails, but still...

thomask0 10y ago

Most of the things i've came across that are being brought up as bombshells are actually incoming mails from outside the campaign. Plus there is a number of things that are being put out of context like the Hillary hates Everyday Americans thing, where it's clear from the context that it is just about the phrasing

gravypod 10y ago
There are a lot of things that are horrible in these leaks. For example, here are four: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/13/four-juiciest-leaked-podesta-emails/92014368/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/... From those four, the following are "verified" by the OP of this thread. - 5205: The Clinton's seem to have had access to the questions to a debate. - 4178: The Clinton's seem to have been advised about the investigation into their emails from someone in the DOJ. These are two out of 4. I'll edit this if someone links other articles and I'll check them across this link.
- thomask0 10y ago
  The DOJ status hearing is one of the perfect examples of something out of WikiLeaks that was way blown out of proportion by tweeting first, ask questions later. http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/10/11/nbc-reporter-suggests-scandal-over-routine-status-hearing-regarding-release-clinton-emails/213754 http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/10/11/nbc-reporter-sug... http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/10/trump-clinton-wikileaks-doj-229615 http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/10/trump-... On the debate thing, a Bernie senior aide came out and said that she gave guidance to Sanders campaign too. The most nefarious scenario would be that Brazile gave questions to Clinton to prop her up. The less nefarious scenario would be that Brazile from her DNC position tried to get the best out of both candidates to not embarrass the DNC. Note that Brazile and CNN are still denying she could have gotten access to the townhall questions. I agree though that networks should not put themselves in these kind of conflict of interests, by hiring a political commentator that is paid by the DNC at the same time, or a former campaign manager that is still on the payroll of said campaign like Corey Lewandowski. http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-former-senior-aide-to-bernie-sanders-1476297181-htmlstory.html http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trai...

protomyth 10y ago

"I don't think there were any real bombshells in the wikileaks emails, but still..." Yes, there are quite a few bombshells. There are now tags of twitter about specific e-mails. If you are a Bernie Sanders fan, then the level of betrayal and cheating is astounding. Never mind the e-mails that shows the staged violence at Trump rallies. If this was a Republican candidate, it would be criminal charge time with the Project Veritas videos as exhibit 2.

dzdt 10y ago
Specific examples that are in your opinion most worthy of authentication?
- protomyth 10y ago
  I'm at work so, and I'll get the rest later tonight (Twitter won't load for me now anyway): https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3023 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3023 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808 wow, what the heck, I'll get more later but a lot of sites just aren't loading [edit: guess its not just me https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12762397 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12762397 ]
  - tdb7893 10y ago
    This pretty much just shows that some people in the DNC were kinda biased and played politics. It's literally their job to do what they think is best for the party and that seems to be what they are doing (whether I agree with them is a different matter but currently besides the point).
    - protomyth 10y ago
      I'm pretty sure a Bernie Sanders supporter would say this goes way beyond that. Leaking plans from one candidate to another is beyond best for the party.