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Lucee is a fork of Railo, which was an open source alternative to ColdFusion (owned by Adobe, formerly Macromedia, formerly Allaire) which was written by JJ All

Lucee is a fork of Railo, which was an open source alternative to ColdFusion (owned by Adobe, formerly Macromedia, formerly Allaire) which was written by JJ Allaire 20 years ago. I am sure most ColdFusion/CFML language docs would be pertinent to Lucee. ColdFusion was a rather prominent server side language in the late 90's and early 2000's. There are a bunch of companies that still use it today - I work for one. Overall though I would say it's widespread usage is on a significant decline. It can be very fast to get something up and running quickly but similar to PHP, can become a mess if one is not careful as you can freely mix data access, business logic and templating together.

allemagne 10y ago
I am also working for a company that uses ColdFusion. While it has been relatively trusty for years, there is now a huge push to move us to Java for a lot of reasons.
- Edmond 10y ago
  I think the vision behind ColdFusion is/was (it is still being sold) solid, I think the implementation is however flawed. I am the developer of HiveMind (crudzilla.com), it shares the ColdFusion vision (ie simpler business application development), but the approach is quite different.
  - bdcravens 10y ago
    Over the years developers were building more advanced applications, and that vision has changed, as more "traditional" features have made it into the language (Hibernate, closures, etc) and once lauded features have more or less fallen to the way-side (for instance form and database tag abstractions like cfform and cfupdate, custom tags, etc)
    - Edmond 10y ago
      I think the vision is not really about a specific technical approach or language or framework. It is about building or inventing new ways of delivering business applications that is business focused. Traditional approaches (IDEs and Frameworks) cater to developer desires, which is often not aligned with business needs....this is a very big debate that I'd rather not start in an HN forum :)
- bdcravens 10y ago
  I spent many years in the ColdFusion ecosystem, not just developing, but running a user group, speaking at conferences, etc. I moved to Rails for the most part (still support code on Railo and OpenBD however) mostly for a much richer ecosystem (like the many background jobs options, CodeClimate, Rails-specific PaaSes, etc)
Prefinem 10y ago
While most docs are pertinent to both ColdFusion and Lucee, there are several things that aren't that will keep you from migrating to Lucee if you are on ColdFusion. CFDocs [1] is a nice site to check out which functions differ from each version, etc. (No affiliation to CFDocs, just use them quite often for work and have been the best resource for CFML that I have found) [1]: http://cfdocs.org/ http://cfdocs.org/

allemagne 10y ago

I am also working for a company that uses ColdFusion. While it has been relatively trusty for years, there is now a huge push to move us to Java for a lot of reasons.

Edmond 10y ago
I think the vision behind ColdFusion is/was (it is still being sold) solid, I think the implementation is however flawed. I am the developer of HiveMind (crudzilla.com), it shares the ColdFusion vision (ie simpler business application development), but the approach is quite different.
- bdcravens 10y ago
  Over the years developers were building more advanced applications, and that vision has changed, as more "traditional" features have made it into the language (Hibernate, closures, etc) and once lauded features have more or less fallen to the way-side (for instance form and database tag abstractions like cfform and cfupdate, custom tags, etc)
  - Edmond 10y ago
    I think the vision is not really about a specific technical approach or language or framework. It is about building or inventing new ways of delivering business applications that is business focused. Traditional approaches (IDEs and Frameworks) cater to developer desires, which is often not aligned with business needs....this is a very big debate that I'd rather not start in an HN forum :)
bdcravens 10y ago
I spent many years in the ColdFusion ecosystem, not just developing, but running a user group, speaking at conferences, etc. I moved to Rails for the most part (still support code on Railo and OpenBD however) mostly for a much richer ecosystem (like the many background jobs options, CodeClimate, Rails-specific PaaSes, etc)

Prefinem 10y ago

While most docs are pertinent to both ColdFusion and Lucee, there are several things that aren't that will keep you from migrating to Lucee if you are on ColdFusion. CFDocs [1] is a nice site to check out which functions differ from each version, etc. (No affiliation to CFDocs, just use them quite often for work and have been the best resource for CFML that I have found) [1]: http://cfdocs.org/ http://cfdocs.org/