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> Use of cheap materials, like vinyl siding and EIFS, which are likely to fail early and require expensive repairs. I was under the impression that EIFS was a

by dpark 10y ago

> Use of cheap materials, like vinyl siding and EIFS, which are likely to fail early and require expensive repairs. I was under the impression that EIFS was a good system. Is that not true?

duskwuff 10y ago
EIFS is great if it's done properly. It can be leaky if designed/installed improperly, though, and it's difficult to repair.
- jessaustin 10y ago
  I've had good results with EIFS on commercial buildings. In fact if you look around you'll find most new commercial buildings in USA are EIFS, usually with one or two accent materials like CMUs or steel. I don't really like the look of EIFS on most houses, although it probably works for "southwestern"-style houses that mimic adobe construction, and I'd love to see a medieval half-timbered house using EIFS. I don't agree with TFA's complaint about what it's calling EIFS "seams". First of all properly-installed EIFS doesn't have seams; in the picture those are simply decorative details. It would have been less work not to include them. If they hadn't been included, the tiny windows would have really menaced the neighborhood with their empty soulless stares. If TFA's favored flavors of "modernism" reject simple details like these, it has to come up with something to replace them, because giant blank walls just doesn't work. EIFS is not alone in not dealing well with moisture when installed incorrectly. I have seen improperly installed vinyl siding, for instance, result in horrific water damage in a short period of time. If you're going to own the results for any amount of time, you must watch your contractors like a hawk. Reasonably-priced contractors will fuck you every time; the goal is to get fucked in relatively painless fashion. Having to replace entire walls is painful, even if insurance covers it.

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> Use of cheap materials, like vinyl siding and EIFS, which are likely to fail early and require expensive repairs. I was under the impression that EIFS was a

by dpark 10y ago

> Use of cheap materials, like vinyl siding and EIFS, which are likely to fail early and require expensive repairs. I was under the impression that EIFS was a good system. Is that not true?

duskwuff 10y ago
EIFS is great if it's done properly. It can be leaky if designed/installed improperly, though, and it's difficult to repair.
- jessaustin 10y ago
  I've had good results with EIFS on commercial buildings. In fact if you look around you'll find most new commercial buildings in USA are EIFS, usually with one or two accent materials like CMUs or steel. I don't really like the look of EIFS on most houses, although it probably works for "southwestern"-style houses that mimic adobe construction, and I'd love to see a medieval half-timbered house using EIFS. I don't agree with TFA's complaint about what it's calling EIFS "seams". First of all properly-installed EIFS doesn't have seams; in the picture those are simply decorative details. It would have been less work not to include them. If they hadn't been included, the tiny windows would have really menaced the neighborhood with their empty soulless stares. If TFA's favored flavors of "modernism" reject simple details like these, it has to come up with something to replace them, because giant blank walls just doesn't work. EIFS is not alone in not dealing well with moisture when installed incorrectly. I have seen improperly installed vinyl siding, for instance, result in horrific water damage in a short period of time. If you're going to own the results for any amount of time, you must watch your contractors like a hawk. Reasonably-priced contractors will fuck you every time; the goal is to get fucked in relatively painless fashion. Having to replace entire walls is painful, even if insurance covers it.