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I'm okay with that. Why should people in the East or South Bay have a say in how San Francisco governs itself?

• otterley 10y ago
  Because how SF governs itself has external impacts upon people living outside SF: traffic, pollution, cost of living, etc.
  • gozur88 10y ago
    Other people will always affect you. That doesn't give you the right to govern them.
    • otterley 10y ago
      On the contrary, that's exactly why we have government in the first place -- because the alternative is war. For a primer on the philosophical reasons behind government, I recommend _Leviathan_ (1651) by Thomas Hobbes.
      • gozur88 10y ago
        Well, okay. But the result of one group of people being governed by another is also war. We have different levels of government for a reason. EDIT: To other points occur to me: 1) I've never found Hobbes very compelling. And 2) If "these other people affect me" is your (not you you, but the general you) idea of a casus belli, you will perpetually be at war no matter how large or small your government.