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Hours ago. apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3105-1/ https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3105-1/ http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu

Hours ago. apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3105-1/ https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3105-1/ http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-5195.html http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-20...

winter_blue 10y ago
It looks like my kernel updates are being held back: ~ $ sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages have been kept back: ffmpeg libva1 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded. The newest available version of linux-image-generic according to apt-cache showpkg is 3.13.0.100.108. (I'm running 3.13.0.98 right now.) Maybe 3.13.100 has the fix to this bug, but I'll have to figure out what's keeping back linux-kernel-image from being updated. What's really puzzling though is that I should have kernle 4.4.x, since I'm running Ubuntu 14.04.5, according to the Ubuntu Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support#A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support#A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kerne... It's strange that my Kubuntu installation is frozen on 3.13.x.
- Florin_Andrei 10y ago
  Most of my 16.04 instances that are configured to auto-update have installed the new kernel already.
  - winter_blue 10y ago
    I've set up cron jobs in the past which automatically ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, but it's sometimes caused things to unpredictably break, especially when you have the backports PPA. After things randomly broke 3 times I decided not to add the backports PPA, and to do manual updates every now and then.
    - jcastro 10y ago
      Set up the `unattended-upgrades` to only install security updates, blindly apt-upgrading can lead to unintended consequences; this will let you get security upgrades without breaking 3rd party packages. See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.html https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.ht...
- justinsaccount 10y ago
  ..because you don't know the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade. use dist-upgrade or just explicitly install those packages.
  - winter_blue 10y ago
    No, dist-upgrade would be 14.04 -> 16.04. I don't want 16.04; I want to stay on 14.04.
    - quesera 10y ago
      > No, dist-upgrade would be 14.04 -> 16.04. That is a reasonable assumption, but it is incorrect. Check the man page for apt-get. On Ubuntu systems, the command to upgrade to a new release is "do-release-upgrade". Insanity, but there it is.
    - forbiddenlake 10y ago
      Sorry, instead of "upgrade" I should have typed `full-upgrade` (which is the same thing as `dist-upgrade` and is unrelated to moving major distro versions)
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    - lathiat 10y ago
      This is indeed a point of confusion. dist-upgrade basically allows adding new packages, or removal of old packages. upgrade does not, this includes the versioned kernel packages. I suspect (possibly unfoundedly) that the command was originally named because this generally happened when doing such distrubution upgrades, but it's not what it actually does. If you're always reviewing it manually it's ok to just use dist-upgrade, alternative if you want to install new packages but still not let it remove packages, you can use: sudo apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs Personally I always just use dist-upgrade and it's not a problem as long as you check it before you hit go.
- ivank 10y ago
  Note the "HWE" (hardware enablement) on that chart. Ubuntu 14.04 came with 3.13; if you want a 4.4 kernel, you have to install linux-generic-lts-xenial.
  - winter_blue 10y ago
    Thanks, that answers my question! Installing linux-generic-lts-xenial should let me get the 4.4.x kernel on Ubuntu 14.04. I might still switch to Arch Linux. It's been a hassle to get the latest releases of various packages (like python, gcc, etc). I've had to use third-party PPAs or manually install them. Ubuntu's freezing of packages makes it great as a base image for Docker containers and other reliably reproducible deployment scenarios, but that's not so great as a regular desktop user.
    - csdreamer7 10y ago
      I have been using Antergos (Desktop friendly Arch) on and off for a while. If you haven't updated for a while, it could cause problems. After I updated after staying off it for two months I had an x crash. Restarted, no problems, all updates installed. Chris from LAS does say I believe in User Error 6 or 7 that if you don't update Arch in a while you could have stability issues when you update.
    - coldpie 10y ago
      I strongly recommend Arch, we'd be glad to have you.

winter_blue 10y ago

It looks like my kernel updates are being held back: ~ $ sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages have been kept back: ffmpeg libva1 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded. The newest available version of linux-image-generic according to apt-cache showpkg is 3.13.0.100.108. (I'm running 3.13.0.98 right now.) Maybe 3.13.100 has the fix to this bug, but I'll have to figure out what's keeping back linux-kernel-image from being updated. What's really puzzling though is that I should have kernle 4.4.x, since I'm running Ubuntu 14.04.5, according to the Ubuntu Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support#A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support#A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kerne... It's strange that my Kubuntu installation is frozen on 3.13.x.

Florin_Andrei 10y ago
Most of my 16.04 instances that are configured to auto-update have installed the new kernel already.
- winter_blue 10y ago
  I've set up cron jobs in the past which automatically ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, but it's sometimes caused things to unpredictably break, especially when you have the backports PPA. After things randomly broke 3 times I decided not to add the backports PPA, and to do manual updates every now and then.
  - jcastro 10y ago
    Set up the `unattended-upgrades` to only install security updates, blindly apt-upgrading can lead to unintended consequences; this will let you get security upgrades without breaking 3rd party packages. See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.html https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.ht...
justinsaccount 10y ago
..because you don't know the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade. use dist-upgrade or just explicitly install those packages.
- winter_blue 10y ago
  No, dist-upgrade would be 14.04 -> 16.04. I don't want 16.04; I want to stay on 14.04.
  - quesera 10y ago
    > No, dist-upgrade would be 14.04 -> 16.04. That is a reasonable assumption, but it is incorrect. Check the man page for apt-get. On Ubuntu systems, the command to upgrade to a new release is "do-release-upgrade". Insanity, but there it is.
  - forbiddenlake 10y ago
    Sorry, instead of "upgrade" I should have typed `full-upgrade` (which is the same thing as `dist-upgrade` and is unrelated to moving major distro versions)
  - deleted 10y ago
    [deleted]
  - deleted 10y ago
    [deleted]
  - lathiat 10y ago
    This is indeed a point of confusion. dist-upgrade basically allows adding new packages, or removal of old packages. upgrade does not, this includes the versioned kernel packages. I suspect (possibly unfoundedly) that the command was originally named because this generally happened when doing such distrubution upgrades, but it's not what it actually does. If you're always reviewing it manually it's ok to just use dist-upgrade, alternative if you want to install new packages but still not let it remove packages, you can use: sudo apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs Personally I always just use dist-upgrade and it's not a problem as long as you check it before you hit go.
ivank 10y ago
Note the "HWE" (hardware enablement) on that chart. Ubuntu 14.04 came with 3.13; if you want a 4.4 kernel, you have to install linux-generic-lts-xenial.
- winter_blue 10y ago
  Thanks, that answers my question! Installing linux-generic-lts-xenial should let me get the 4.4.x kernel on Ubuntu 14.04. I might still switch to Arch Linux. It's been a hassle to get the latest releases of various packages (like python, gcc, etc). I've had to use third-party PPAs or manually install them. Ubuntu's freezing of packages makes it great as a base image for Docker containers and other reliably reproducible deployment scenarios, but that's not so great as a regular desktop user.
  - csdreamer7 10y ago
    I have been using Antergos (Desktop friendly Arch) on and off for a while. If you haven't updated for a while, it could cause problems. After I updated after staying off it for two months I had an x crash. Restarted, no problems, all updates installed. Chris from LAS does say I believe in User Error 6 or 7 that if you don't update Arch in a while you could have stability issues when you update.
  - coldpie 10y ago
    I strongly recommend Arch, we'd be glad to have you.