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In Turkey, if you apply for a new SIM card (let's say you have micro and you want nano) then you cannot access your bank account (for example Garanti Bank, prob

In Turkey, if you apply for a new SIM card (let's say you have micro and you want nano) then you cannot access your bank account (for example Garanti Bank, probably other big banks too). Doesn't matter whether you try to access the bank via your PC or phone or via your home telephone, a massage appears saying that your SIM card has been changes and thus you need to re-validate yourself. So, this means that the banks and mobile operators share data. Plus, if you apply for a new SIM card and you have a changed information in your ID, such as your father's has changed his name or you have corrected your birth place, then your ID is send to the government and only when the government gives a permission then they can give you a new SIM. If you are not the owner of the SIM card no one talks to you. If you want a new phone number then you must register with your ID.

ollie87 10y ago
Not sure I like the idea of the state being so heavily involved in this process. Then again as a UK citizen they probably have access to my phone any way.
- darkhorn 10y ago
  Yes, I don't like it too. Some of these are to prevent terrorism which is a big issue in Turkey and some are because there is no proper philosophy (only daily changing idiotic religious thouts). And as if this is not enough, they cannot process it properly. They leaked Turkey citizen database (yeah, address, full name, citizenship ID), they leaked Turkish mobile phone numbers, they leaked president's private (yeah!) phone conversations. And worst, laws mostly stay for a life time.
nommm-nommm 10y ago
Off topic, but I am really curious. What would be a reason for your father to change his name in Turkey? Is men changing their name common in Turkey?
- darkhorn 10y ago
  For example when you apply for Turkish citizenship your father's name is let's say Philipos, and you have a father with that name until he also becomes a Turkish citizen with a new name let's say Filip. Now you have to update your ID. I've heared that some police or military people change their name because they killed many terrorists. But the most comman provlem is with birth dates. Some of my friends had such birth dates in their IDs; 0.0.1984 or 5.12.1885 (should be 1985). Why? Actually they have birth certificate in Bulgaria, even with hours. But when they become citizen of Turkey an idiot public service officer wrote wrongly to a paper, now you need to prove that you were born in that date with diplomatically certified and translated birth certificate that you have optained from your home country wich is possible but long and boring process. Instead they auto corect to middle of the year; 1.7.1984. Especially some eastern places before 90s didn't wrote their birth dates because you know, is a "boring paper work" for them. Or a parent says that their douther's name is Gizem but the public servant writes İzem. This is why this country is called a developing country. They can't write something propery.

ollie87 10y ago

Not sure I like the idea of the state being so heavily involved in this process. Then again as a UK citizen they probably have access to my phone any way.

darkhorn 10y ago
Yes, I don't like it too. Some of these are to prevent terrorism which is a big issue in Turkey and some are because there is no proper philosophy (only daily changing idiotic religious thouts). And as if this is not enough, they cannot process it properly. They leaked Turkey citizen database (yeah, address, full name, citizenship ID), they leaked Turkish mobile phone numbers, they leaked president's private (yeah!) phone conversations. And worst, laws mostly stay for a life time.

nommm-nommm 10y ago

Off topic, but I am really curious. What would be a reason for your father to change his name in Turkey? Is men changing their name common in Turkey?

darkhorn 10y ago
For example when you apply for Turkish citizenship your father's name is let's say Philipos, and you have a father with that name until he also becomes a Turkish citizen with a new name let's say Filip. Now you have to update your ID. I've heared that some police or military people change their name because they killed many terrorists. But the most comman provlem is with birth dates. Some of my friends had such birth dates in their IDs; 0.0.1984 or 5.12.1885 (should be 1985). Why? Actually they have birth certificate in Bulgaria, even with hours. But when they become citizen of Turkey an idiot public service officer wrote wrongly to a paper, now you need to prove that you were born in that date with diplomatically certified and translated birth certificate that you have optained from your home country wich is possible but long and boring process. Instead they auto corect to middle of the year; 1.7.1984. Especially some eastern places before 90s didn't wrote their birth dates because you know, is a "boring paper work" for them. Or a parent says that their douther's name is Gizem but the public servant writes İzem. This is why this country is called a developing country. They can't write something propery.