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Jquery still solves a lot of the problems and saying bloat about is nonsense. Nowadays everyone embeds mega of worth libraries to build a damn blog. But using

• verbify 10y ago
  Not to mention the syntax is nicer. Compare the wordy: > document.getElementById('myid'); to > $('#myid'); I feel the same way about underscore. Regardless of the helper functions, readability goes up.
  • seangrogg 10y ago
    So, jQuery instead of just... function $(sel) { switch (sel[0]) { case '#': return document.getElementById(sel.slice(1)); case '.': return document.getElementsByClassName(sel.slice(1)); default: return document.getElementsByTagName(sel.slice(0)); } } I mean... "readability".
    • angry-hacker 10y ago
      And in the end, you add 10 of those selectors. Then you create a small library so they are all at the same place and handy. Then few fixes to support that one browser in that case. And in the end you have jquery.
      • seangrogg 10y ago
        I think you're forgetting additional HTTP functionality, rudimentary animations, additional wrappers around existing JavaScript representation of DOM nodes, and a variety of other things that you'll never realistically used but thrown into all your applications for posterity. Because in the end, you had jQuery.
        • angry-hacker 10y ago
          With http2 the additional request is not a problem. If you don't use jquery, you don't care about old browsers/OS not supporting them either. Also, cdn+caching of the library.
          • seangrogg 10y ago
            Bytes are bytes are bytes, http/2 or no. It's far less intensive to polyfill what features I actually am using than sending down all of jQuery, and that can still be minified, gzipped, cached, delivered via CDN, and cache-controlled and/or placed in the application cache via service workers (where available). But I can understand that it's less about the user experience and more about the developer experience nowadays.
      • tylerlh 10y ago
        With that you would end up with something more like Sizzle[0], not necessarily jQuery. [0] https://sizzlejs.com/ https://sizzlejs.com/
    • hex13 10y ago
      in HTML5 would be sufficient: const $ = document.querySelectorAll.bind(document); (but it would be only pseudo jQuery, the way you can have pseudo React just by using functions and ES6 template strings https://jsfiddle.net/vug86rn0/ https://jsfiddle.net/vug86rn0/ )
  • fetbaffe 10y ago
    var $ = document.querySelectorAll.bind(document); $('#myid');