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There are three possibilities: 1 - citizen who lies on their jury duty questionnaire to get out of serving. 2 - non-citizens who told the truth on their jury

by wang_li 10y ago

There are three possibilities: 1 - citizen who lies on their jury duty questionnaire to get out of serving. 2 - non-citizens who told the truth on their jury duty questionnaire. 3 - non-citizens who became citizens, but were registered to vote before they became citizens. The first have committed perjury and are ineligible to vote. The second are ineligible to vote, plus there is some weirdness associated with them even being selected for jury duty, read on. As for the third, jury lists are drawn from voter registration as the requirements to vote and the requirements to be on a jury are the same. It's unlawful to register to vote if you aren't a citizen. So the third group has also committed a crime and are ineligible to vote. And ineligible to become citizens and would face deportation if anyone bothered to followup.

maxerickson 10y ago
The first have committed perjury and are ineligible to vote. Because they are felons? There's 3 problems with that argument. Some states allow convicted felons to vote, the people in question have not been convicted and it's a bad law to disenfranchise felons.
vkou 10y ago
I am a non-citizen, and I have been selected for jury duty. I have obviously declined it. The jury duty selection process is done by picking drivers' licenses at random. You don't need to be a citizen to have a driver's license. You're missing option #4, which is far more likely then option #3 - non-citizens who were called up for jury duty, who later became citizens. Your analysis of group #1 is in contradiction with reality. People make up all sorts of reasons to get out of jury duty. In practice, they are not prosecuted for it.
- wang_li 10y ago
  > I am a non-citizen, and I have been selected for jury duty. I have obviously declined it. Based on researching my prior response, Federal courts use voter registration. Some states may use drivers license lists. However, Virginia seems to use voter registration. There's actually a good chance that you are registered to vote. With the Motor Voter law that has been in place since the 1990s, nearly everyone who has received a drivers license has also been registered to vote. Even in cases where people mark they are not citizens, the systems are screwing up and registering them. What basis do you have for saying that it's more likely that people have become citizens between being selected for jury duty and going on to vote? Given that 50% of the non-citizen residents are here unlawfully, it seems improbable that there is any majority that have become citizens. I'd just repeat the inquiry as to whether you have any research that follows up on your hypothesis.

by wang_li 10y ago

maxerickson 10y ago

The first have committed perjury and are ineligible to vote. Because they are felons? There's 3 problems with that argument. Some states allow convicted felons to vote, the people in question have not been convicted and it's a bad law to disenfranchise felons.

vkou 10y ago

I am a non-citizen, and I have been selected for jury duty. I have obviously declined it. The jury duty selection process is done by picking drivers' licenses at random. You don't need to be a citizen to have a driver's license. You're missing option #4, which is far more likely then option #3 - non-citizens who were called up for jury duty, who later became citizens. Your analysis of group #1 is in contradiction with reality. People make up all sorts of reasons to get out of jury duty. In practice, they are not prosecuted for it.

wang_li 10y ago
> I am a non-citizen, and I have been selected for jury duty. I have obviously declined it. Based on researching my prior response, Federal courts use voter registration. Some states may use drivers license lists. However, Virginia seems to use voter registration. There's actually a good chance that you are registered to vote. With the Motor Voter law that has been in place since the 1990s, nearly everyone who has received a drivers license has also been registered to vote. Even in cases where people mark they are not citizens, the systems are screwing up and registering them. What basis do you have for saying that it's more likely that people have become citizens between being selected for jury duty and going on to vote? Given that 50% of the non-citizen residents are here unlawfully, it seems improbable that there is any majority that have become citizens. I'd just repeat the inquiry as to whether you have any research that follows up on your hypothesis.